Helping Your Patients Make the Most of Their New Health Insurance Coverage
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- Hello everyone and welcome to the latest in Maine Quality Counts wants to learn...
- Disabilities today we're primarily going to focus on main care including chip and...
- Hardships can also get catastrophic plans those are plans with even higher...
- Apply to the marketplace and are deemed to be eligible for main care instead the...
- Itself can be tricky so now we're going to discuss actual payment name so Kate...
- That must be considered is when you report changes in the marketplace...
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hello everyone and welcome to the latest
in Maine Quality Counts wants to learn
webinar series my name is Paul Santa
menna at main Quality Counts and
obviously kicking things off with an
introduction this afternoon and you have
joined the webinar entitled helping your
patients make the most of their new
health insurance coverage little
background on main Quality Counts for
those of you who aren't familiar with us
we're a member-driven and supported
nonprofit organization here in Maine and
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we work to improve health care and
health for everyone in the state and
specifically we bring together the
people who give get and pay for health
care and provide tools and leadership
that we all need to make sure all
Mainers receive care that's truly
patient-centered we are driven by a
spirit of collaboration we work with
over 70 partner organizations both in
the healthcare world and in government
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also in the community basically working
to all of us working together to achieve
shared quality improvement and
ultimately health outcome goals we have
about 140 members members are both
individuals and organizations and if you
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button at the top and you can fill out
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your way the member only webinar that's
coming up that I just mentioned is this
coming Thursday at noon and it's with
Lauren Taylor who is the co-author of
relatively new book on what she and her
co-author called the American healthcare
paradox why as you all know we spend
more than other developed countries and
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get worse results in many cases there
should be an interesting discussion
Lauren will be joined by Lisa letourneau
our executive director to engage in a
spirited discussion with folks with
members who are joining on the call as
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recordings later this afternoon and you
can also look at any other webinar from
our website and at the other sites that
i mentioned so moving on to the
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presentation today we have two
presenters from consumers for affordable
healthcare emily brontë with the
executive director and mary schnecken
berger who is the education and outreach
manager so with that emily and mary i
think it is your turn to take over and
bring us through great thanks so much
Paul and thank you to everybody for
joining us today on your lunch break my
name is Emily braszczok i'm here with
mary schnecken burger and over the next
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15 minutes or so we're going to be
talking with you about the challenges
that families today are facing and
navigating and using their health
coverage so just to give you a sense of
where we're headed today I'm going to
give a brief overview of consumers for
affordable health care we're going to
talk about why this topic matters go
over some basics for some common types
of coverage focusing on the marketplace
the ACA marketplace in Maine care and
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then we're going to kind of sum up what
we've learned talk about how health
providers and people involved in Maine
health care system can help and we'll
save some time at the end for questions
but please feel free as we go to type
questions and we'll try to keep track of
those as well
so consumers for affordable health care
is a nonprofit that's been around for 27
years and our mission is to advocate for
the right to quality affordable health
care for everybody in Maine we do that
in a number of ways we help consumers
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with health coverage issues through our
consumer assistance helpline we also
provide a lot of information online we
also help consumers who are having
problems with their coverage like denied
claims and with coverage disputes and we
provide workshops presentations training
for professionals like you so you have
all of the right information and
resources to assist your patients and
clients and in addition to this work we
also are involved with legislation and
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advocacy to make sure that the consumers
perspective and voice is considered in
our laws and the way that our health
system runs so with that let's jump
right in to our presentation today so
families today have a couple major
pathways to get health insurance
coverage so we have main care or
Medicaid we have chip which is actually
part of the main care program many
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families are now getting private
insurance through the ACA marketplace or
healthcare gov in these last few years
and many people most people actually who
have coverage are insured through their
employer and so these are some of the
major ways that people get insurance
today and you'll notice we didn't
include Medicare here we're not going to
focus on Medicare today although that is
obviously a major way to get coverage
for people who are older have
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disabilities today we're primarily going
to focus on main care including chip and
also on the private insurance coverage
that's available through the marketplace
with these programs families are having
to navigate you know applications
eligibility as well as how the actual
coverage works so when you're a consumer
and you're trying to figure out what
kind of coverage you qualify for it is
complicated so we've provided this slide
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not because we want you to parse through
each different area of this handout but
just to show how complicated it is you
can see that four different categories
of people whether you're a senior
apparents a young adult to child and
depending on the number of people in
your family there are different income
guidelines there are different rules to
each program and so it's extremely
complicated at times for people to
figure out what kind of coverage they
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may be able to get and complicating
matters even further is the fact that
different family members may qualify for
different things so in your family your
kids might qualify for a main care or
chip for example but you know some
adults in the family may have coverage
at work other adults may be able to get
a plan through a marketplace maybe you
have an older family member who has
Medicare and you might also have some
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family members who are in one of the
gaps you still don't have any coverage
options at all and so families are
having to juggle all these different
programs and understand different kinds
of coverage rather than being covered
through one plan so why is this an
important topic for us to talk about
today well if people don't understand
their coverage and we know that most
people don't health coverage is
extremely complicated the terms are
difficult a lot of people don't
understand their plans and how they work
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and if people don't understand their
coverage that may impact how they access
the healthcare system and whether
they're compliant with their medications
in their care also you know as I said on
the last slide more and more families
are juggling multiple
of coverage and that can be a big burden
on them and as health professionals you
all can help so patients are more likely
to want or need to learn about their
coverage when they're actually accessing
the health care system and there's also
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a lot of research that shows that people
trust their health professionals when it
comes to learning about their their
health coverage and how it works even
more than they trust their health
insurance company so you are a trusted
source of information that people will
be looking to so I just want to give a
short example is a real example from a
family that we met through our help line
that shows why this matters so we helped
a self-employed couple get signed up for
insurance for the first time I'm is the
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first time they'd have private insurance
and most of their adult lives a couple
months later one of them got injured on
the job I believe he injured his foot or
his leg but he was afraid to go to the
emergency room because he thought that
he would have to have his entire
deductible in his pocket ready to pay or
he wouldn't be able to get service and
so he didn't go to the emergency room he
didn't go to the doctor's office he
waited and by the time he actually
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access care he was in danger of meeting
his leg to be amputated because he had
waited because he was afraid of how much
that would cost him so clearly it has a
big impact on how Pete spacious actually
access their care alright so now that we
understand how important it is let's
just learn a little bit about the
marketplace which is the the plans that
are available through the Affordable
Care Act now i'm also going to add we're
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not going to go into the nitty-gritty
with either the marketplace or main care
today if you are really interest
in learning more about those programs we
have some other resources we can point
you to we'd be happy to answer questions
so I'm just going to give at this point
a very basic summary so the marketplace
these were created for it through the
Affordable Care Act's a law that was
passed in 2010 and as part of that each
state has an exchange or what we now
call a marketplace so each state has a
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marketplace in some states the state
built and runs their own marketplace and
other states the federal government runs
that marketplace for the state and
that's the case in Maine we have the
federal government running our
marketplace which is why we use
healthcare.gov the goal of the ACA was
three parts to increase affordability to
increase quality and increase access to
coverage so let's kind of look at
through how that those goals played out
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with an example family so here let's
meet our marketplace family so katie is
a self-employed psychotherapist Erin
works up in animation studio awesome
animations they have a little girl lucy
before the ACA kate had an individual
policy and erin was covered at a bigger
company but now he's out awesome
animations which doesn't offer coverage
because they are pretty small group
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their federal poverty level based on
their income in their household size is
about three hundred and seventy-five
percent and their households right now
is three they have three people in their
household so what would they be eligible
for when it comes to marketplace plans
most people actually are eligible to
purchase plans on the marketplace the
big question is who is eligible to get
the financial health that makes those
plans more affordable so some people if
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your income is between one hundred and
four hundred percent of federal poverty
you can get help with the cost of your
premium if your income is between 100
and 200
and fifty percent of federal poverty you
can get help with your out-of-pocket
costs through a cost-sharing reduction
whether you qualify for financial health
depends on your income how big your
household size is that used to calculate
the federal poverty level your
citizenship or immigration status and
also whether you have any other kind of
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coverage available to you so our Kate
and Aaron eligible for the marketplace
they are they can buy a plan and because
their income is under four hundred
percent of federal poverty they're able
to get tax credits that make their
premium more affordable every month
because they are over two hundred fifty
percent of federal poverty they are not
eligible for cost-sharing so on the
marketplace the amount of health that
you get is on a sliding scale that means
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people with lower income and more
household members get more help in
people who make more money get left help
so where you fall on that scale will
determine how much your premium is and
how much help you get with cost-sharing
marketplace plans have varied levels of
cost-sharing and so in general in the
marketplace you can find plans that are
bronze silver and gold in other states
there are also platinum plans but we
don't have platinum plans here in Maine
because our insurance companies have
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chosen not to offer them those levels
are based on actuarial value or on
average how much you pay for your health
care and how much your plan pays for
your health care so for bronze plans for
example the plan is paying for on
average about sixty percent of your
health costs and you are paying forty
percent those plans typically have a
lower monthly premium that you pay more
out of pocket when you actually get care
and young adults and people with
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hardships can also get catastrophic
plans those are plans with even higher
out-of-pocket costs and that don't have
any financial help available to purchase
them
and some people who apply to the
marketplace may also find that they or a
family member actually qualifies for
Medicaid or main care so with that we're
going to move to our first question and
I'm going to give you some thinking
music in about thirty 30 seconds for you
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to answer why you think consumers find
insurance difficult
great so you guys did great clearly you
realize that there are many reasons that
consumers find it difficult to navigate
their health insurance you know it
involves some sophisticated mask to
understand out-of-pocket costs
deductibles copays co-insurance some of
the costs are unknown it can be very
difficult if not impossible to know how
much a service is going to be and how
your insurance will cover it before you
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actually get that service and there's
also a lot of really complicated
specialized terms that people need to
need to get comfortable with to really
understand their plan things like you
know premium co-insurance explanation
benefits so so good job alright we're
going to move on and just to talk a
little bit more about the marketplace so
you can apply a number of ways people
can apply to the marketplace online at
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healthcare.gov you can also apply by
phone or many people have applied with
in person helped through navigators
Certified Application counselors or
brokers all of whom can sit down with
you and help you understand your options
and sign up for a plan and get any
financial healthy you might qualify for
and we'll talk a little bit more about
how to access that help later in the
presentation there are deadlines for
when you need to apply for most people
the most people must sign up during open
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enrollment for this year that open
enrollment period starts on November
first it goes until January 31st of 2016
and most people need to sign up by
December 15th in order to get a plan
that would start on january first so in
order to be covered for the entire year
of 2016 now some people if you have
certain life events happen to you you
can actually apply outside of open
enrollment
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during a special enrollment period and
here you can see a list of many of the
more common examples of Special
Enrollment Period triggering event so if
you move to a new area you get married
you lose the coverage that you had to
work etc I'll just note that getting
divorced is listed on this slide it
actually is only a special enrollment
period if it causes loss of coverage or
change independent status on its own
without getting into the nitty-gritty it
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doesn't trigger a special warm-up period
on its own so back to our marketplace
family Kate and erin so now that they've
understood what they qualify for they
were enrolled in a marketplace plan they
signed up during the first open
enrollment period within a sister so
with a navigator or application
counselor they found that a sister
through enroll 207 com which is a great
website that you should book mark if you
haven't already and then during the
second open enrollment period for their
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2015 plan they r Ian roll themselves
using healthcare gov now that they're
familiar with the system so here's your
next pop quiz how many essential health
benefits must be available in
marketplace plans and again I'm going to
give you some some thinking music
great well many of you are right on
target others you know this might be
some new information for you so what
we'll just move on to the answer
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essential benefits are those services
that marketplace plans have to cover so
there are ten essential health benefits
that's 10 categories of benefits that
every plan on the marketplace and most
plans outside of the marketplace in fact
have to include now to be considered
health insurance and it's these are all
things that you would assume would be
covered under health insurance but
before the Affordable Care Act
unfortunately many of them were not so
includes things like hospital stays
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prescription drugs mental health
services maternity and newborn care etc
so our marketplace family back to them
Erin and Kate signed up for a plan and
they liked the benefits especially
because when they would started being
covered through this plan they decide to
add to their family and have another
child so with that I'm going to pass
things over to Mary who is going to talk
more about another way many families get
coverage which is through main care good
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afternoon everybody we are going to look
at the basics of main care and then
eventually we'll get into doing some
comparing and contrasting between main
care and the marketplace so the
Affordable Care Act intended that
there'd be no gap between Medicaid or
main care and entry into the market
place without with subsidies but because
Maine has not expanded Medicaid we do
unfortunately have a gap so these fpl
numbers that you see on the slide those
are the
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poverty level limits for parents at 105
percent and children at two hundred and
fourteen percent these are the current
cut-offs in Maine they both include a
standard five percent ACA disregard the
cut-offs could be different from state
to state but the five percent
disregarded standards across the country
this is a little slide that we've
developed to give people an idea of what
we call the universe of mean care and
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you can see that Medicaid is funded
jointly by the federal government and
states in Maine we call our Medicaid
program main-care other states may have
special names for their Medicaid
programs as well in Maine Maine care is
administered by D HHS and it is a
needs-based program and so here is
another quiz for you so take a few
seconds to fill out your answers
it looks like this is a very smart group
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again the answer was all of the above
and so similarly to the problem with the
marketplace people the public in general
is very confused about these programs
what their cover what covers what they
would have covered you know what
services would be covered or even if
they have coverage at all and so now we
are going to introduce you to a main
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carry this is laura and Karl there are
both self-employed musicians and they
have a five-year-old child named Harry
so are they eligible for main care let's
look at the rules first so who is
eligible this is confusing too because
there are over ten categories and every
one of them has its own income bar some
non Stanley categories may have asset
bars as well in addition you do have to
be a resident of the state of Maine and
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you must be here legally at least five
years or a citizen unless you are a
child or pregnant so those are the
criteria and so our Lauren Karl eligible
well Laura and Carl can apply in the
parent category because they maintain a
household for a child and so yes they
currently meet that income bar because
their income was less than one hundred
and five percent and Harry also meets
the income bar for children in addition
they are residents of Maine and they're
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all three citizens so there are
different ways to apply for Maine care
like there are different ways to apply
for the marketplace people can use paper
applications although that is not as
popular anymore there is my main
connection which is an online portal
that's great if you have access to the
Internet many people still don't every
main care office now has a kiosk with an
online portal and additionally if you
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apply to the marketplace and are deemed
to be eligible for main care instead the
marketplace does directly send your
application to make care or 2d HHS so
Laura and Karl did apply for main care
in 2013 originally they had enrolled in
the marketplace but then they did their
taxes after the new year and in February
of 2014 they showed a lower income which
made them then eligible for main care so
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they had to switch over they enrolled
online at my main connection it did take
a couple months to hear back now during
those couple months Laura actually
required emergency surgery in the middle
of the night her bills were in limbo for
a while but eventually they were paid by
main care so we're going to look at
coverage now and a lot of I've answered
the help line here at cake for a long
time and people often ask is coverage
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good when you have mean care and that
depends on who you are for children the
coverage is very comprehensive for
parents it's pretty good too but it does
actually vary from category to category
it's not the same coverage just like the
income cutoff is different for each
category so is the coverage so we're
going to move into the portion of the
webinar where we're going to look at
differences and similarities between
main care and the marketplace and we
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have created a handout for you that's
very user-friendly that we're going to
be sending you by email or that quality
council send you which will summarize
these similarities and differences for
you to use as a reference
so we're going to look at networks first
main care networks are very black and
white either a provider is in or not if
a main care member visits a provider who
is not a main care provider but the
provider does until the member that the
service won't be covered that member
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can't be built for that service so there
is a built-in protection however when
somebody is a new main care member they
really do need to ask any providers that
they've been seeing whether they take me
care or not because if they don't take
maker they the member will need to
switch so contracting main care networks
to marketplace networks you can see
marketplace networks are very tricky
because each marketplace insurance
company has its own network and some
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insurance companies even have different
networks in different parts of the state
and so you guys probably know this but
the general public especially people who
are newly insured may not realize that
services that are received out of
network without prior authorization will
be more costly so Aaron remember the
marketplace family Aaron needed lake
surgery luckily his marketplace plan had
broad networks it was easy to choose a
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doctor he liked well maybe not that easy
it actually took them all summer to you
to choose but he was fortunate enough to
have choices and on the other hand Laura
needed emergency surgery all main
hospitals do take me and care but many
doctors don't however lucky for her
main-care covers emergencies regardless
of network so just to explain about chip
chip is funded by a separate law and in
some states is considered to be a fully
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separate program but it made for
simplicity it is rolled within the main
care umbrella chip is the only family
man care category that has a premium and
people members of chip which is only for
children but parents of chip children do
get a
each month if they don't they they do
have a grace period of a whole year but
if by the end of the whole year they
haven't paid up for the entire 11 past
month they will their child will lose
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coverage they get a three-month coverage
loss penalty and so it's important for
chip families to keep track of those
bills it is possible that the bill may
not show up so they families do need to
be aware of that so to contrast that
marketplace premiums vary widely they
depend on age County and smoking status
this is because on average different
ages are associated with higher or lower
levels of health and also on average
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some counties are healthier than others
and then again the final cost of the
premium will depend on the amount of the
subsidy if family is eligible for and as
we mentioned earlier subsidies will be
dependent on the income and household
size which translates into the federal
poverty level so we're going to look at
cost-sharing now main-care has very
little cross sharing main-care
cost-sharing consists of co-pays and
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they are never more than three dollars
and in addition as a further protection
there are daily and monthly copain max's
to protect some people that have many
services and medications and in as well
children and pregnant women are exempt
from co-pays then on the other hand we
go back to the marketplace plans and
Emily mentioned earlier that there are
different levels we have bronze silver
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and gold primarily in Maine and then if
you take the silver plans people below
two hundred fifty percent have
and additional three different levels of
cost-sharing so people whose incomes are
very low can get ninety-four percent of
their costs covered and you can see on
the chart that there are those three
ranges of that and once a family becomes
eligible or chooses a silver plan and
there are eligible for this cost sharing
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it actually makes the silver plans be
almost a hundred percent identical and
that is something that the public may
not be aware of oftentimes they might
pick the highest silica plan but if they
have cost-sharing reductions they
probably don't need to in most cases
okay so here is a quick question for you
how many levels of cost-sharing in
marketplace plans are there all together
take a few seconds
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so the way I would answer this question
is there are catastrophic bronze silver
gold or platinum that's five and then
you can also take the silver and divide
it out into three more levels so that
would make eight that's the answer that
I got but I think it's a complicated
answer so no wonder the public is
confused about this okay so cost-sharing
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is confusing there are a lot of levels
but there's also a lot of pieces to it
cost-sharing includes co-pays
coinsurance and deductibles in
marketplace plans and also also
out-of-pocket maximum is considered part
of cost-sharing too but it's kind of the
protection it limits the amount of
whoever have to pay in any one year and
what happens if you forget to pay I'll
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remember back we talked about chip
premiums that's the only regular family
main care program that has a premium and
you have a up to a really a 12 month
grace period but with marketplace plans
if you do have an advanced premium tax
credit you have a three month grace
period to pay up before the plan is
terminated but here is something that
messed a lot of people up that's only
true if the first payment is made prior
to the start date and that just in
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itself can be tricky so now we're going
to discuss actual payment name so Kate
and Erin do have cost sharing so
remember Aaron had to have Lake surgery
well they bought a gold plan and they
have inducted below five hundred dollars
and that means that their coinsurance or
the part veo of other bills is twenty
percent so the leg surgery just about
ten thousand dollars in total
including the physical therapy that he
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had to go to afterwards they had not
paid anything into their deductible yet
they would have paid that five hundred
dollars they would also have been
expected to pay about nineteen hundred
dollars for their coinsurance and also
laura has surgery remember but she
didn't have any cost sharing there was
you know because she doesn't think it
was no deductible or coinsurance okay so
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now we're going to move on to really
looking at ways that both programs are
similar and you get to hear Emily's
voice again thanks Mary alright so I'm
going to wrap this up and get us into
some time for discussion and questions
so let's look at the similarities
between main care and marketplace plans
so both men care marketplace plans do
you require prior authorization for some
services meaning that you basically need
to get a go-ahead before you get some
kind of service or care main care
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providers must warn members if a service
isn't going to be covered by their main
care but if you have private health
insurance including marketplace plans
providers are not legally required to
warn you if a service won't be covered
and so sometimes people will go and get
a service and then be surprised that
they are paying much more than they
expected because it turns out that
service is over through their plan or
maybe they get a surgery and find out
that the anesthesiologist was not
covered through their plan so it's very
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complicated for people to navigate and
understand and because it's so
complicated there do need to be some
protections in place for both programs
so if someone has care that is denied if
they're denied coverage if service is
not covered there is an appeal process
for both main care and the marketplace
it's a complicated well it's a fairly
complicated process I'm not
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go into in detail today except for her
to say that we can help so if you have
somebody that you know how a patient or
client yourself even you might need
understanding what your rights are to a
people is made by your insurance honey
or maybe I main-care we can help with
that and we also work really closely
with our partners at main equal justice
partners on main Cara peels there are
different kinds of ella's of F denials
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and appeals it can include things like
whether you're eligible for our program
so sometimes people apply to the
marketplace they're told they're not
able even though they think they should
be that's something that can be appealed
it can also be for actual coverage for a
service that you want to get in the
future or something you've already
provided so again it's a complicated
thing for consumers to understand feel
comfortable with but we can help another
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similarity with both the marketplace in
Maine care is that you do need to report
changes in your household or your income
to either programs so if you get a raise
or you lose some income or if you add or
lose a family member that's a change
that you need to report so you must
report income or household size changes
within 10 days to main care the
marketplace also expects that you report
changes to them people who are getting
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tax credits to the health insurance
marketplace are expected to update their
accounts as soon as possible that's
going to affect how much assistance
surveying they may get more assistance
they may get less depending on what
change happened if somebody experiences
a change in their household size are
their income and they don't report it
they will have to reconcile this at tax
time that's because your eligibility in
the health insurance marketplace is
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based on your projected income for
the year and then if your actual income
ends up being different than what you
would put in your marketplace
application you have to kind of settle
up with the IRS so if you got too much
in tax credit to pay some back if you
didn't get enough you will get
additional money back which is great but
the problem would have been even better
if you were paying the right amount
through the entire year so it's very
important to keep the marketplace
updated about changes speaking about
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that conciliation cross process there is
a cap on how much most people would have
to pay back to the marketplace even if
they were getting the wrong amount of
help throughout the year so for most
people there there's a another to how
much they would have to pay back so
going back to our marketplace family
Erin and Kate if they had a higher
income for their household size then
they had projected so they ended up
making more money than they had thought
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they could owe money back to the IRS
they would do that through the parent on
tax return and for their family that the
cabbie up to 2,500 dollars because they
are a family and their income was
between 300 and 400 percent of federal
poverty now you'll notice their income
landed them outside of that income range
which actually made more than four
hundred percent of federal poverty they
would be subject to paying back the
entire amount of tax credit that they
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received throughout the year again
that's another reason why it's very
important for people to update the
marketplace as soon as a change happens
because that could potentially be a big
big expensive tax time that people
weren't expecting so if it's talking
about Erin and Kate again if their
income with less they would get a larger
refund at a time this is true you know
since they had a child during one of
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their coverage years their household
ends up being bigger that changes their
federal poverty level and that would
change the amount of
credit as well now presumably they would
have reported that so that their new
child would be covered under their plan
but that's also exchange that needs to
be reported or else they wouldn't be
getting assistance as they should have
now a little wrinkle here with reporting
changes through the marketplace if you
are one of those families that is
getting financial help with your
out-of-pocket costs through cost
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reductions so remember that people whose
incomes are below 250 find a federal
poverty and their income changes and
brings them out of that income bracket
and then their premium deductible and
car insurance could change quite a bit
and the same if your income kind of
changes within that Brett you can get a
different level of cost sharing then you
had been getting so maybe if your if
your income had put you in the lower
range you're making like a hundred fifty
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percent of federal poverty you have had
a plan that had a two-hundred-dollar
deductible and a very cheap premium if
you got a raise and suddenly your income
with two hundred percent you might see
you both your deductible and your
premium go up and again it's something
that you want to report right away
although those cost-sharing reductions
are not something that you have to
reconcile at tax time now another thing
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that must be considered is when you
report changes in the marketplace
sometimes if your income has gone down
or you have some other change in your
family this may make somebody in the
household eligible for main-care and the
way that these programs work is if you
are eligible for Maine care you are no
longer eligible for financial help
that's available on marketplace so this
actually happened with the main care
family we've been talking about Carl and
Laura they started out in the
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marketplace plan but when they realize
their income in the next year what's
going to be lower that moved them over
to the main care category so not only do
people have to navigate these very
complicated
grams that they need to navigate moving
between each program potentially you
know each year as income change of
fluctuating because we know that many
people in Maine have fluctuating income
dependent on seasonal jobs and other
changes all right well we are winding
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down towards the end now we'll be ready
for questions just seconds but before
that we wanted to give you just ten
seconds to think for a minute and jot
down the three most important
differences between main care and the
marketplace that you would want to make
sure to share with your clients or
patients all right well hopefully that
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gave you a chance to reflect and think
of some of the things that stood out for
you here are a couple that that really
stand out for us as important for people
to understand one is that you know
unlike the marketplace where there's an
open enrollment period you can enroll in
Maine care any time people also need to
understand that if they don't pay for
their marketplace plan they are in
danger of losing it people in both
programs need to understand how networks
work and where they can go to access
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care especially for the marketplace
where networks might be a little more
limited or confusing to navigate it's
also important for people to know that
mistakes can happen in both programs and
there are people who can help you if one
of those mistakes has happened to you
just a couple other things that we would
highlight for you that you may all want
to know is that I may encourage Nile is
official only when it's in writing we
also have seen a lot of people who sign
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up for marketplace plans and have
trouble with their their premium
automatic payment remember if you're not
making your premium payment every month
you are in danger of losing your
coverage so you know if you said if you
thank you set up an automatic payment
and you don't that's the place that
people can get really tripped up so just
to wrap it up I just wanted to emphasize
that this is something that as people
who are you know within Maine's
healthcare system you all can can help
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patients navigate this as I mentioned at
the beginning patients are already
thinking about their health care and
their health coverage when they're
interacting with the health system and
so this is a good point where we can
intervene and make sure that they that
patients understand the coverage they
have because if they don't understand
their coverage they may not use it
appropriately because they're afraid of
how they'll be constant they'll be
charged so be sure to ask your patients
questions about if you know ask them if
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they have questions about their coverage
if they understand their coverage if
they have concerns about their coverage
and if you're explaining concepts like
deductibles or co-pays to them we would
recommend using a method called axtell
ask which is basically you ask them a
question you explain the answer to them
and then you you ask them to make sure
that they to kind of explain it back to
you it's kind of like the teach back
method which many of you are familiar
with and along those lines you know
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whenever you have a chance to invite
clients or patients to ask questions
about their coverage that they may have
it would be a good idea to do that
understanding that the systems are so
complicated for patients to navigate and
the good news is you don't have to
figure this out alone this doesn't have
to be you know necessarily a new task
that you all would have to take on there
are paid their are people who can help
the people that you are serving fixes
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issues and so who can help you well
we've mentioned our helpline a couple
times this is something that we're ready
to assist people with if they're having
issues with their coverage the main
Bureau of insurance is also a great
resource for people who are having
issues of private
insurance with denials with other issues
with their insurance company and as
we've mentioned a couple times there are
also people called navigators and
certified Application counselors those
are people working in nonprofit health
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systems other sites across the state who
provide free assistance to people free
unbiased assistant signing up for
coverage in the marketplace and brokers
are also available to do that as well
and so if you think that you know your
patients and clients may need some help
navigating their options or
understanding how to use those options
you could probably find a navigator or
certified application counselor in your
area who would be only too happy to come
and drop off materials for you to do an
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outreach event at your site and you can
find them by going to enroll 207 com
which is a great website that was
developed by the main Health Access
foundation help people find main
specific resources and with that we do
have some time for questions so I'm
going to sit back and see if you guys
have anything you want to ask or
anything that we didn't answer and I
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believe you can use the chat box if
you'd like or you can also raise your
hands and I think quality counts can
unmute you in that case yes we can or
you can unmute yourself by hitting the
star and seven keys on your phone
so while you're kind of gathering your
thoughts about questions you may have I
will say that if you want to learn more
about any of these specific programs
there are a number of great resources
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that can help but one thing I would plug
is that Mary together with some other
people here at cake does a great one day
workshop called main care where the mark
marketplace main care and more that
gives more details about both programs
so if this is really you know what is
your appetite for learning more about
how this works for people in your
community that is a great place to go
so Emily looks like we might be able to
wrap up a little bit early great all
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right well thank you everybody for
joining us oh wait we have to see the
music credits oh I see there's a
connection here to this music well
thanks very much and it was very
informative and particularly helpful to
get connections to other resources other
sources of information if people need to
access access those later on so thanks
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very much for your help and for your
presentation taking the time to put it
together and to present it today wanted
to alert folks to the next couple of
webinars in this lunch & Learn series we
have guests from Maine's VA system on
jun 2nd talking about that system which
is the nation's largest integrated
healthcare system and on jun 9 talking
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about expert remind me what that stands
for Emily you remember it's a substance
abuse substance abuse screening tool and
that'll be on jus and night so June
second at noon and june nine sat noon
two upcoming Lunch and Learn webinars if
you haven't gotten an invitation yet you
probably will in your emails so keep an
eye out for that and for men quality
counts we'll wrap it up thanks very much
for joining us and everyone have a great
afternoon