Announcing 2019 Health Insurance Rates
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- Good morning thanks all for being here this morning...
- Month which is $27 per month less than last year a forty year old in Duluth...
- Know that the financial burden of health healthcare costs and health insurance...
- Enrolling and health coverage isn't always easy and that's why we have 1500...
- Re extend or somehow extend a premium subsidy or reinsurance but also...
- Get it to you again what we're really grateful for is that there is a provider...
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good morning thanks all for being here
this morning
can everybody hear me okay great I'm
Jessica lumen I'm the Commissioner at
the Minnesota Department of Commerce and
joining me today our Commissioner Jan
Malcolm from the Minnesota Department of
Health and Nate Clark the CEO of mnsure
the state's health insurance exchange
today we are here to announce the 2019
health insurance rates for Minnesota's
individual and small group markets and
provide consumers guidance on how best
to shop for insurance during the annual
open enrollment period that begins on
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November first before we get started let
me take a few moments to thank the
Commerce staff who worked on this year's
rate review process 15 employees from
our insurance division were involved in
the review they were led by Fred
Anderson our Acting Deputy Commissioner
for insurance and Kristi bone our chief
health actuary I also want to thank the
staff at the Minnesota Department of
Health who partnered with us in this
important effort all of these people are
dedicated public servants and we
appreciate their hard work on behalf of
the people of the state of Minnesota as
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an overview and then we'll get into some
details first the individual and small
group markets remain stable in Minnesota
second on average rates are going down
in the individual market because of
lower utilization rates lower costs per
service Minnesota's reinsurance program
and a strong Minnesota economy every
county in the state for 2019 has at
least one carrier offering health
insurance in both the individual and
small group markets and individuals will
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have access to at least two carriers in
83 counties and at least 14 health plans
in all 87 counties and all of the health
plans that have been approved with rates
today continue to provide the following
consumer protections comprehensive
health coverage and no exclusions for
pre-existing conditions I'd like to
offer a little background on the rate
review process as you know the Commerce
Department does not set the insurance
rates we with rate review we carefully
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evaluate the proposals submitted by
insurance companies to ensure that they
comply with actuarial standards and with
state and federal law
we look to see that the rates proposed
by insurers will be adequate to pay for
expected medical claims and expenses on
behalf of policyholders we also ensure
that these rates are not excessive in
addition the Minnesota Department of
Health reviews the insurers proposed
plans to make they sure they comply with
requirements for the adequacy of health
care provider networks I also want to
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thank the health insurance companies for
their participation and work during the
rate review process today we are
announcing the final approved rates for
the individual insurance market and the
small group insurance market let me turn
first to the small group health
insurance market these health plans
provide coverage for businesses and
organizations with two to fifty
full-time employees Minnesota's small
group health insurance market is
considered to be stable in terms of
insurance participation market size and
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rates ten companies will be offering
plans in 2019 no insurers leaving the
market and one insurer is entering the
market the overall size of Minnesota's
small group market can is growing going
from about two hundred and fifty
thousand and two hundred 2016 to just
over three hundred thousand by the end
of 2017 about five and a half percent of
all Minnesotans are in the small group
market during the past few years most
small group insurers have had relatively
modest rate increases this is also the
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case this year the final average rates
for 2019 range in the small group market
from two point three seven percent
decrease to an eleven point nine three
percent increase most rates will see a
single-digit increase small group and
individual rates continue to be more
closely aligned in every rating area the
small group rates and the individual
rates are closer together than they were
in 2018 moving to the rates that are
being approved today in the individual
health insurance market as of April this
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year the individual market included
about a hundred and fifty five thousand
enrollees or about three percent of all
Minnesotans these the people who buy
their own coverage for themselves and
their families they don't get their
insurance through an employer or a
public program like Medicare Medicaid or
Minnesota care for 2019 the
schedules for all five carriers are
showing rate decreases as you can see in
the poster here the individual health
insurance market decreases range from
seven point four percent to twenty seven
point seven percent please note that
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these average changes are over all plans
being offered in the individual market
by each carrier the actual rate change a
consumer will experience can vary from
the average based on the specific plan
they select where they live and how old
they are these rate changes do not
reflect the impact of federal premium
tax credits for eligible Minnesotans who
purchase their coverage through mnsure
Minnesota care can excuse me Minnesotans
who get their tax credits are largely
insulated from the big rate increases in
2016 and 2017 and we'll see less impact
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from these rate reductions now the
greatest positive impact will be for
Minnesotans who are not eligible for tax
credits and who must pay the full cost
of their own premiums these people
should see significantly lower premiums
available to them when they shop for
their health plans during open
enrollment at this fall in terms of
actual premium costs I want to provide
you a few examples of what someone might
pay to get the second-lowest silver plan
through mnsure for example a 40-year old
in the Twin Cities would pay $300 per
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month which is $27 per month less than
last year a forty year old in Duluth
would pay three hundred and thirty two
dollars per month which is ninety four
dollars less than last year a family of
four in the Twin Cities would pay
fourteen hundred and sixty four dollars
per month which is a hundred and thirty
four dollars less than last year and an
family of four in Rochester would pay
twenty three hundred and fifty six
dollars per month which is five hundred
and fifty two dollars less than last
year now as a reminder these are
examples and they also do not include
the tax credits that folks could receive
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through the mnsure system the rate
changes for 2019
are an indication that with state
support the individual market has
stabilized there are a combination of
several factors to attribute
stabilization to first medical claims
costs are projected to be lower in 2019
in 2018 utilization rates and costs per
services were reduced possibly because
the individual market pool
tends to be somewhat healthier than
anticipated pent-up demand for health
care may have been met access to
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preventive care may have made people
healthier and carriers may have achieved
some cost efficiencies second the states
reinsurance program that began in 2018
and continues into 2019 is estimated to
have reduced rates by about 20 percent
from what they otherwise would have been
without reinsurance third Minnesota's
economy continues to be strong and a
stronger economy contributes to a stable
insurance market to explain a bit more
about the state's reinsurance program
for the individual market this program
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reimburses health carriers in the
individual market for 80% of high
medical claims costs Minnesota was only
the second state in the nation to enact
a reinsurance program with federal
approval now there are seven states with
reinsurance for 2019 and additional
states are looking to do the same
because about 2.2 percent of enrollees
account for about half of the total
claims cost in the entire individual
market the reinsurance program allows
insurance carriers to offset their
high-cost claims 271 million dollars per
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year was appropriated for the
reinsurance program in both 2018 and
2019 federal funds will offset a
significant portion of the reinsurance
costs these funds are based on savings
from premium tax credits that the
federal government would otherwise pay
Minnesotans for higher rates without
reinsurance this federal funding is
anticipated to be about 131 million
dollars in 2018 well Minnesota has
focused on stabilizing the cost of
health insurance were also pleased that
there will be multiple plans offered in
every County for consumers to choose
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from in the Commerce Department health
rate summary report there are maps
showing the individual market carriers
that are offering plans in each county
there's also a map showing the number of
plans available in each county again the
goal is to have as much consumer choice
as possible so that consumers can choose
the best option for themselves and their
families
mnsure open enrollment offers the
opportunity for Minnesotans to shop for
the plan that best fits their budget and
health needs the Minnesota Department of
Commerce and health are also ensure that
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all of the health plans in the
individual market
and the small group market include
comprehensive coverage and do not
exclude for pre-existing conditions
essential health benefits are provided
by all of the plans in these markets
including emergency services
hospitalization maternity and newborn
care preventive and wellness care and
substance abuse and mental health
treatment in conclusion today's approved
health insurance rates show that the
individual and small group markets have
stabilized however based on Minnesota's
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experience and that of other states
across the country it is clear that
state support is needed in order to
create and maintain that stability
particularly in the individual market in
the past we have had a premium discount
program and Minnesota currently has a
reinsurance program in place to provide
that stability further while the rates
have stabilized in Minnesota the actual
cost of health insurance continues to be
a barrier for many families and small
businesses continued focus on health
outcomes cost drivers access and
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affordability are key components of
continuing to have a strong insurance
market in the future thank you I'd now
like to turn it over to Commissioner
Malcolm Thank You commissioner lumen and
good morning John Malcolm from the state
department of health we really
appreciate the opportunity to join our
partners at the Department of Commerce
and mnsure this morning to talk about
the importance from a public health
perspective of today's good news for
Minnesotans
I really appreciate Commissioner
illumines emphasis on the importance of
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the benefit coverage offered in
Minnesota due to our strong consumer
protections in the individual and small
group markets as commissioner lumen
mentioned one of the core
responsibilities of the Health
Department is to regulate certain
aspects of HMOs and health plan provider
networks the health plans offered in
Minnesota by mnsure on the men strange
are required to meet multiple
certification standards including the
benefits coverage that we've discussed
the health department is also
responsible for certifying provider
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networks including physicians specialist
clinics hospitals and other providers
overall in 2019 available provider
networks will also remain very stable
with only my
changes in service areas here are the
highlights no network service areas will
be reduced 12 provider networks will be
offered on mnsure for the individual
market in 2019 compared to 11 networks
offered with individual health plans on
the exchange in 2018 most counties will
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have two or three available provider
networks and associated qualified health
plans only two counties in our state
will have only one available provider
network that is Lake of the Woods in
Meeker County we often talk about the
challenges posed to public health by the
rising cost of health care and health
insurance we know how important having
access to quality health care is for
people's health it matters whether you
can go to go to the doctor for
preventive care and when you first see
signs of a troubling condition we also
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know that the financial burden of health
healthcare costs and health insurance
matters tremendously to family's sense
of well-being and fan shalls' financial
stability but it's true that rising
costs have placed coverage out of reach
for many Minnesotans and rising costs
will continue to threaten coverage in
the future
in fact analysis soon to be published by
the Health Department indicates that
health care spending is projected to
nearly double again in the next decade
key drivers of health care costs include
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our aging population and a systemic
tendency in our health care system to
focus almost all of our resources on
treating people after they've already
fallen ill rather than doing more to
help them stay healthy obviously people
need quality health care and they need
affordable insurance to get access to
that care but that's not enough on its
own even with the most advanced health
care capabilities in the world we cannot
simply treat our way out of these costs
and we can't prevent chronic disease
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without focusing on what causes them in
the first place health care costs are
being driven overwhelmingly by chronic
conditions like diabetes more than
one-third of Minnesotans today have at
least one chronic condition and we know
that spending is eight times higher for
someone with a chronic condition than
for someone without
so to prevent chronic disease and to
manage it once again we need to pay
attention to the quality of insurance
coverage as commissioner lumens so well
described which means no exclusions for
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pre-existing conditions and the
inclusion of essential benefits like
mental health and substance abuse
coverage and further we need to use our
public health tools to identify and
address the root causes of illness and
to move further upstream which includes
doing more to invest in the community
conditions that either enable healthier
choices or make them more difficult
which is why it's so important that
Minnesota continue with its leading
efforts through the statewide health
improvement partnership to work with
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local communities on those community
conditions for prevention for actual
health improvement we look forward to
continuing to be part of these solutions
to Minnesota's ongoing health care cost
and quality challenges and continuing
our close collaboration with the
Department of Commerce and with mnsure
to ensure that the health care system
and insurance markets work for everyone
in Minnesota in every corner of our
state with that I will hand it off to
the mnsure CEO mr. Clark Thank You
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commissioner Malcolm and Commissioner
lumen I am nate Clark good morning
everyone I am the CEO of mnsure as in
previous years there's been a lot of
noise around the Affordable Care Act and
there are three important facts
Minnesotans searching for coverage
should keep in mind first mnsure is open
for business and ready to help
Minnesotans enroll in comprehensive
health coverage it's important that
Minnesotans helped and their finances
are protected second tax credits are
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still available to help Minnesotans save
money off their monthly premiums but you
can only access those tax credits on
mnsure org and third we have free
in-person application and enrollment
assistance available from trained
experts who live in your community so
mnsure is still here we can save you
money and there is free help if you want
it a few words about saving money mnsure
is the only place where Minnesotans can
take advantage of it
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premium tax credits these credits act
like instant discounts that reduce the
monthly out-of-pocket costs
Minnesotans pay for their health
insurance some Minnesotans mistakenly
believe the credits are only available
to low-income individuals this isn't
true this year an individual earning up
to forty eight thousand five hundred and
sixty dollars a year we're a family of
four earning up to 100 thousand four
hundred dollars a year can't qualify for
help last year about two-thirds of
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Minnesota
mnsure enrollees qualified for tax
credits these tax credits can make a
real difference for Minnesotans last
year the average tax credit was more
than $7,000 dollars per year many
Minnesotans are often pleasantly
surprised to learn that they're eligible
for some kind of Faysal some kind of
financial assistance and we need to get
the word out about this last year half
of the Minnesotans who are eligible for
tax credits didn't take advantage of
them and taken together they missed out
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on millions of dollars in help so yes
the rates are important news today but
it's also important to remember that the
financial assistance is available that's
a very important part of this story
consumer should come to mnsure.org and
see if they qualify when it comes to
premium costs for the vast majority of
the Minnesotans we help the price they
see in today's rate reliefs will not be
the price they ultimately pay to get the
financial help available to them
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Minnesotans should fill out an
application at mnsure.org starting on
November 1st these tax credits make the
final price tag more affordable and they
can only be accessed by shopping through
mnsure finally I want to highlight the
consumer assistance I mentioned earlier
while such outreach funding has been cut
for other states
mnsure still has free in-person
assistance in every corner of Minnesota
to help people enroll we know that
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enrolling and health coverage isn't
always easy and that's why we have 1500
certified assisters these are brokers
and navigators
and they're ready to help by providing
free in-person assistance these
assisters could help individuals
complete an application and they can
present them with their covers options
and they do this at no cost
Minnesotans anxious to start the
enrollment process should go to our
website they can find a broker or a
navigator in their community and they
should schedule an appointment starting
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November 1st
so remember tax credits are available to
consumers only through mnsure org and
in-person assistance is available
throughout the state for those who would
like it in closing let me just say this
Minnesota has the fourth lowest
uninsured rate in the nation and that's
not an accident access to affordable
care coverage through mnsure has been
critical to helping Minnesota achieve
historically low uninsured rates this
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open enrollment mnsure will be focused
on helping more Minnesotans protect
themselves by shopping and comparing
plans through mnsure and enrolling in
comprehensive health coverage thank you
so we'd be happy to say it takes four
questions if anybody has them so again
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there's a couple of factors that that
that play into that so as we say the
individual market is now at about a
hundred and fifty five thousand
enrollees we do hope that as the rates
continue to go down and the market
continued to stabilize that people will
be able to move back into that market if
they have left that market how else
however we're also seeing as we
indicated an increase in the small group
market and so we're seeing people move
into other markets oh it's out of the
individual market
and fostering authorities just premiums
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exclusive so the what you see here is a
combination of all of the plans that are
offered by the individual carrier so
they're going to include all of the
different pricing value plans so it's
everything from catastrophic plans up to
gold and plans are all built into these
averages we can get you the detailed
information about what the individual
plans have and the deductible values and
all of those kinds of things in more
detail so this is the average premium of
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all the different types of plants not
with this it's just the value of each
plan is factored in this this average
yeah thank you thanks for clarifying for
2019 on saying silver plan versus 2018
we can sure get that information for you
it's super detailed for each plan yeah
level the Trump administration is
promoting short term health plans and
Association health plans so are they
gonna are those gonna be big factors in
these markets next year so the federal
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actions have been somewhat mitigated in
Minnesota by the premium subsidy plan
that we have and the reinsurance plan of
had and the reinsurance plan that we
have now we also very strong regulations
in Minnesota around both Association
health plans and short-term limit
duration plans and so we think in some
ways that actually insulates us from
some of the impact of federal
regulations that said these rates do
reflect the carrier's expectations in
understanding around the 2019 impact of
those changes in federal regulations
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real quick than that no I'm a short-term
I thought state law would make the
short-term changes the irrelevant in
Minnesota but maybe that's too strong so
we have a law in Minnesota that
regulates short-term limited duration
plans and in Minnesota we have about six
of those plans being actively marketed
and other plans that have been approved
but in Minnesota those plans are only
bridge plans that help folks for up to
six months to move from one
comprehensive plan to another
comprehensive plan and we really see
people using those short-term plans at
least in Minnesota to help them get to
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the next open enrollment
like we're seeing in November first but
if a carrier wanted I mean that they
think the scenario nationally is that
the carrier could extend that to 364
days or something like that could
carrier do that in Minnesota in
Minnesota we are their short term
limited duration plans are limited to
six months so it's less of a issue and
as an alternative coverage we see less
of an impact of that change yes
Association plans is there much change
in the status quo for Minnesota or there
is not much change in the status for
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Minnesota agains we have a strong law in
Minnesota that regulates Association
health plans and so we don't anticipate
that there'll be significant changes in
that however there may be opportunity
for more fully insured Association
health plans to move into the large
group market but we're not in - we
haven't seen that yet program runs out
of money sure so the new governor and
the legislature will have to determine
what form of state support that the
individual market has in 2020 in order
to continue this stabilization we do
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recognize and the data proves out that
through the premium subsidy plan in 2017
and then the reinsurance plan for 2018
and 2019 those were very strong factors
in the stability that we're seeing today
come up with a new type of stabilization
plan in the next session so that the
rates don't presumably what we we do
think it's really important that the new
governor and the legislature take a
really hard look at how to continue to
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provide the state support necessary for
a stable individual market would there
be options other than the status quo to
the conventional reinsurance and so well
I think that there's a lot of ideas
under discussion and again I look
forward to the conversation that the the
next governor in the legislature have
about this issue commissioner Malcolm's
looking more broadly at healthcare
offerings in Minnesota as a whole the
legislature and governor next year will
have to figure out not only whether to
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re extend or somehow extend a premium
subsidy or reinsurance but also
Minnesota
care how troubling is that for you as as
this administration ends and a lot of
questions are on the line well we're
we're grateful that there has been
heightened attention drawn to the fact
that the Health Care Access Fund which
supports not only the Minister of
Minnesota Care Insurance Program but
many other things we do in Minnesota to
support rural health care to support
provider availability and to support
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prevention are all funded by the Health
Care Access Fund which relies on the
provider tax and it's not the healthcare
access fund that goes away under state
under the sunset that's it's just
specifically the provider tax funding
mechanism so I think we have to two
distinct policy conversations that need
to be had next year one is the funding
source for the healthcare access fund
and what that access fund should support
so absolutely this is going to be an
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urgent item for the 2019 legislature as
programs will start to be impacted in
2019 by the by that provider tax sunset
if that if that stays in place your
claim that Minnesota care can be funded
through federal resources specifically
solely and the provider tax is not
needed to fund Minnesota care what's
your response to that claim well I would
want to defer to my colleagues in terms
of the specifics of the the intricacies
of the funding mechanism and it's
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complicated how provider tax and and
federal supports interplay but again I
would just call attention to the fact
that there are things in that health
care access fund that we believe are
powerfully important for keeping care
affordable and keeping Minnesotans
healthier which have nothing to do with
the federal reimbursement for for
Minnesota care per se that all the
supports that we give to rural health
care availability helping to support
provider access around Minnesota and
prevention I can't stress enough how
backwards our funding strategy is for
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health in Minnesota when we fail to
invest upstream and prevention and those
things are funded not by the federal
government by the state mechanism
- not by ACA insurance instead by
something a catastrophic plan that
doesn't mean you know essential health
benefits and doesn't you know qualify
for an ACA plan is there ever an
argument to be made that some people
might be best to make that decision in
the current environment I'm gonna let
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mr. silver talk as well but I think our
mr. Nate talk I'm just but I think the
short answer is that we really encourage
people to shop for the right plan for
themselves and I think that that what's
what we show here in the in the scope
and breadth of the plans that are being
offered all the way all across the state
that it's really important that people
do shop see if they have tax credits
available and see what the right plan
for themselves and their family is so I
think you know the great thing about the
individual market is it really is
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individualized and each one of the
hundred 55,000 people that's currently
participating in the market can find the
right plan for themselves
we actually don't anticipate that
there's going to be a big impact in this
smart in the individual market because
of the people that are currently
participating in the market we actually
hope that they'll be an increase in
participation because these rates are
going down somewhat well when we saw the
proposed rates earlier in this in the
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spring and then we were able to do the
evaluation and ensure that they actually
balanced with the actuarial standards as
well as state and federal law the these
are pretty they are a decrease but we
were not that surprised by them because
we knew that the impact of the
reinsurance program was going to have
some impact on that and then we're also
seeing these trends lower with the
utilization and costs one thing tell me
if I'm seeing this right the the
decreases are are bigger it looks like
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an out state in Greater Minnesota then
in terms of dollars they're greater
the premiums in the greater Minnesota
would have been higher to begin with um
it might seem that right and what what
what explains that not sure gonna be
able to answer you on a specific
question County like the benchmark
premium view page eleven thirteen of
them page thirteen yeah Olmstead this
benchmark goes down it's hard to read
but I think it says one hundred and
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thirteen dollars whereas in Hennepin it
goes down
twenty-seven dollars I think and I think
if I'm seeing it right it looks like
most of the sort of out state counties
have a greater decline so I didn't know
if you could talk about I don't want to
speculate on each individual County so I
can certainly get you some more
information on that but what we are
seeing is there is some variety and
variation and again in which benchmark
plan it is and also the the change over
time I want to follow up on what my
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colleague talked about it specifically I
think commissioner Malcolm said a couple
of counties Meeker and Lake of the Woods
have only one provider available so kind
of along the line of what he was asking
the counties that have fewer provider
networks available are they generally
going to see less of a decrease or more
of a decrease than counties where
there's you know more market options for
people do you have any do you have the
data cut that way at all can you tell us
anything about that I don't have that
data cut right now but we can certainly
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get it to you again what we're really
grateful for is that there is a provider
in every single County in Minnesota a
carrier excuse me in every single County
in Minnesota and that the number of
plans to choose from is at least
fourteen and in most in most counties is
greater than that you know my question
isn't I don't like in the woods or
Meeker are they gonna be paying a a lot
more premium or see less of a decrease
and other
but you know you don't have that
information I don't have that you we can
take a look at the chart on page 13 and
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ask answer specific questions yeah sure
um one thing for commissioner Malcolm
may be on networks so one of the big
issues in the past has been for folks
who live outside a southeast can they
buy a plan in this market where the Mayo
Clinic is in-network and the answer has
been no is there any change on that this
year there's really no change in that
dynamic I would like to just emphasize
that we're blessed in Minnesota with a
number of high quality providers and
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markets all around the state and it is I
appreciate the question because it's
really important that folks do pay
attention to how their provider networks
are structured with respect to access to
specialty care the the two plans and
this is not surprising that that feature
more in network coverage for mail are
the plans in the southeast access to
mail and other highly specialized
providers in the other in the other
plans and the other products around the
state would vary by type of service and
so it's just always important for
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enrollees to know the specifics of their
network and particularly how to how to
access really some of that that tertiary
and quaternary specialty care that's
that's something that is important for
consumers to know and does vary quite a
bit from plan to plan and aside from
Mayo
are there any network when it's very
detailed but I mean when you all look at
the details are there any like pleasant
surprises people are gonna find the
network so wow it's a lot bigger or is
it kind of the same I hear to it with
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respect to provide our availability it's
a story of the market being relatively
stable and there being a provider access
that meets our standards for Geographic
access and coverage of specialty types
in each of these networks so it does
remain a good news story that provider
access was generally good around the
state
the commissioners or mr. CEO what could
next year blow this up I assume that if
if the legislature decides not to do
read to provide reinsurance an extension
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of that now we'd be talking about 2020
then at that point that most of these
reductions would go away we correct in
that what other things
on the federal level or otherwise might
switch us around to the other mode where
we were having significant increases
instead of significant decreases can you
give us any thoughts anecdotally or
otherwise on that I think that we have
as we've discussed we have an
opportunity moving forward in the next
legislative session to really address
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how we continue this stabilization in
the individual market and I think that
we also we have very sophisticated
carriers in this state and we also have
very sophisticated consumers and I think
that we all continue to look at the
impact of federal regulations and change
at the federal level as well as the
goals we're trying to achieve of
providing access to affordable health
care for all Minnesotans and those are
the areas that we need to continue to
focus on moving forward fair to say that
if reinsurance isn't there that it would
have a significant impact in 2020 we
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need to have a plan in place for plan
year 2020 and again I think there's a
real opportunity to think about what
that looks like in the next legislative
session without reinsurance does it
create real problems some of your
colleagues were nodding their heads I
think we need a plan and I think that
reinsurance has been the plan for 2018
and 2019 the premium subsidy plan was in
play program was in place for 2017 and I
think we need to continue to look at
what we're going to do moving forward
federal support accounted for over 100
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million of the reinsurance funding
what's the future of that I mean it's
not something that you can keep
Minnesota can count on and you keep
going forward or is that who knows so in
order to operate the reinsurance program
the Commerce Department I had to apply
for a waiver from the Department of
Health and Human Services and that
waiver is in place and each year we
we'll need to go back to the department
and talk about what our experiences have
been what our projections are and firm
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up exactly what that reimbursement rate
will be again it's it's based on prior
experience and so we anticipate because
we have the approval of 1332 waiver that
we the federal approval does continue
it's just the amount of money that we
will actually receive as federal subsidy
might may change over the years year
2020 when would you need authorization
from the legislature in order to get
everything in place Rosana : next year
again we think that this is something
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that really needs to be addressed in the
beginning of the next legislative
session around what the plan is going to
be if it's going to be a reinsurance
plan it's going to be a premium subsidy
plan if it's going to be another plan
again the state support for the
individual market is as we said a very
important factor in ensuring that the
stability of this market continues as is
the utilization rates and the cost
reduction and the stability of our
overall insurance market so we think
that there's a real opportunity for the
legislature new governor to take a look
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at this soon insurance bill created the
AG coops do you have any information
about how big a factor they've played in
the individual or the small group market
we don't have any information on that
specifically we can certainly get you
some information about that or refer you
to them directly