Everything you need to know about switching health insurance
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- Like any household bill.
- Have to pay more for their cover and, in fact, it's exactly the opposite. So.
- Because depending...the older the plan you're on, the more the savings are. So.
- In most cases the savings will be between, let's just say, €100 up to...
- - And is there a particular time of year that people should switch insurers?...
- Mind joining a corporate plan, you don't mind taking on a small excess.
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Like any household bill, health insurance
is one thing that you don't want to
overpay on. However, when it comes to
switching and saving consumers often
have lots of questions and concerns
around the process. So, we decided to
catch up with health insurance expert
Dermot Goode from TotalHealthCover.ie
to find out more. Dermot, thank you very
much for joining us today. So, we know
that switching saves; whether it's gas,
electricity or, in this case, health insurance
and there's always money to be
saved. But what do you find are maybe the
concerns that people have around
switching health insurance in particular?
What puts people off switching and
saving on their health insurance?
- Yeah, health insurance tends to be very
emotive subject and, really, it centers around fear
So, a lot of people,
particularly older members are
afraid to change. So, they're afraid of
maybe losing benefits or having a break
in cover. A lot of people think they'll
have to re-serve their waiting periods
So, in other words, that they won't be
covered for an existing condition and
people think they might have to apply
these age loadings, where they might
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have to pay more for their cover and, in
fact, it's exactly the opposite. So, the
legislation is completely protective of
health insurance consumers
So, effectively, if I have served all my
waiting periods with the current
insurance company it doesn't matter who
I switch to, it doesn't matter what I have
If I switch to an equivalent plan
with somebody else, I'm on cover
immediately. So there's no obstacles
whatsoever and in fact I can switch
right back to my previous insurance
company in a year's time if I wish
So, it's quite similar to car insurance
and home insurance in that there's no break
in your cover whatsoever but a lot of
older people are just afraid...
- And so those fears that are unfounded?
- They really are! If you see another
policy out there, you like the benefits,
you like the pricing, well then the next
thing is don't do the Irish thing, which
is tell the insurance company nothing, in
health insurance you tell them
everything because they can't
discriminate in any way. They can't vary
the pricing based on your medical
history, so literally you phone up the
insurance company and you tell them "I'm
thinking of joining plan X", get them to
explain to you what's the difference
between that plan and your previous plan,
in other words, what are you gaining?
What are you losing? And what stays the
same? Tell them everything that's
important to you, you know, any scan
centers, any existing conditions. They
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then have to tell you whether you're
covered, yes or no, and if you like the
answers, then we would say to people,
listen, that's it then, you just switch
And don't be afraid to switch!
- That's interesting so, like you said, it's the
exact opposite of what you'd
almost do with car insurance
you tell them all the
conditions, all the illnesses and they
can't discriminates?
- Exactly and we would say to people...
See, a lot of people associate health insurance
with life assurance and car insurance
and they're afraid if they disclose something, that
it'll work against them. So they tell
people nothing, they don't even check
that cover in advance of going into hosptial
So, the key thing if you're thinking of switching;
ask them everything, tell them everything
It does not work against you in any way.
In fact, if it transpires that there's something
on the new plan that's missing, well,
that's the whole point behind the
exercise to identify that and make sure
that any plan you switch to gives you
the key cover that you require. That's why
we would say to be would be very careful
you know, there's there's, let's just say, some
sites out there that would compare one
plan versus the other - that's never
enough, they're just a guide only. You
really need to get advice on this to
make sure you're getting the
right plan to suit your needs.
- Okay and then if people do decide to switch
what can they possibly save?
- Well, here's where it gets very interesting
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because depending...the older the plan
you're on, the more the savings are. So, if
If I'm on the same plan for ten years or
more, and by the way some of these plans
with VHI, Laya and Irish Life, some are
on the market between 10 and 30 years
So, if I'm on a plan that's more than
10 years old, the savings will be between
€500 and €1000 per adult but, here's the
thing, Daragh, in most cases for better cover
- Right, okay.
- Then, if the plan is maybe 3 years old
The savings could be half that, between €250-500
per adult and then, if you've only changed
recently, the savings might be less but
but here's the other catch. A lot of
people don't realise, there's special offers
launched to the market all the time
So, sometimes you get free cover for the
second child under 18 or you might
get 50% discounts for children under 18.
So, it actually pays to shop around at
each renewal because sometimes
the plan that you're on, that you joined
maybe two years ago has just been
replaced by a brand new version that's
under a different name and with a lower
premium. So, if you don't know where to look
if you don't watch the moving
goalposts, if you let your cover
auto-renew each year, which is the
biggest problem for Irish consumers
too many of them just let it roll over. They
don't check anything. They're overpaying
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In most cases the savings will be
between, let's just say, €100 up to...
€1,000 per adult.
- That's huge and, I suppose, the insurer
is very seldom going to let you know that you're overpaying or that your plan is maybe
five, ten or fifteen years out of date. It's this
loyalty, kind of, premium
that people end up paying. People
are punished for being loyal, isn't it?
- Well, we would say to people, in
health insurance, there's no such thing
as loyalty. So, you don't get any credits,
any extra benefits for being loyal
Loyalty exists in your head only. So, we
would say to people genuinely forget
about the name over the door, we have
three fantastic health insurance
companies. They're all bound by the same
legislation, so the rules that you're
familiar with, with your current insurer,
that's generic across all three. So, if
you find another plan with somebody else
that has better benefits, at a lower premium
Tell them everything, ask them
everything, and if you like what you hear
definitely switch because the savings
are really so worth it! And, also, another
new trend is that we're seeing a lot of
older people who are very fearful of
change, particularly if they have existing
medical conditions. What we're now seeing
is that their siblings, their sons and
their daughters, are doing the reviews
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for them and they're saving Mam and Dad
thousands on their cover but Mam and Dad
wouldn't do it themselves, you know?
And that's a good, positive trend
- Something that often comes up, and it's
probably important to reiterate it, is that
anyone can sign up for any plan,
can't they? So, if it's a corporate plan
or if it's a plan that's aimed at, maybe,
the nurses or the doctors or anyone...
Anyone could sign up, you
can't be discriminated against?
- Absolutely, you can join any
plan that's on the market and we would say
once again, you know, to all of your
customers...if they're on the same plan
for three years or more, if they
haven't split their cover, in other words
maybe put Mam and Dad on a different
plan to the children, if they don't have
a small excess on their policy, if they
haven't looked at joining a proper
corporate plan and as, you say, forget
about the names, anybody can join any
plan but they're the best plans on the
market by a mile - or if they're paying
the full adult rate for anybody who's
aged 18 to 25...Well, if the answer is yes
to any of those, you are now definitely
overpaying and you need to get your
cover reviewed because you're missing
out on phenomenal savings and often with
the same insurance company and
often for better cover.
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- And is there a particular time of year
that people should switch insurers?
Is there any time that's better than others
or is it just when it's up for renewal?
- Pretty much when it's up for renewal...
but the key period for renewals is from
November right through to
the end of March
that's when about, let's just say, nearly
75% of all members will renew in that
period and that's when we tend to see
the special offers from
the insurance companies as well, but
really there's no point doing it mid-year
But really, we'd say to people
you get your renewal notice a month
beforehand; start your homework,
start your shopping around then
because a significant number
people renew on the 1st of January but
with Christmas and everything else they
just forget about it
and suddenly they find that they've
auto-renewed and they're locked in for
another year and there's nothing they
can do. So, definitely once the renewal
notice lands, now that's the time to
start getting advice and shopping around.
- Ok, so finally, if someone is looking to
switch so, they've heard what you've said
where should they start? What are the
first steps? What would you recommend?
- Well, straight away, we would
say engage with your insurance company
first of all. So, literally pick up the
phone and put them under pressure to
find you a lower cost equivalent plan
to what you have and tell them you don't
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mind joining a corporate plan, you don't
mind taking on a small excess, and get
them to explain what deals they have. If
that doesn't give you what you need, we
would now say to people you need to get
advice. There's 340 plans out there
There are plans to suit everybody's
budget and there's lots of tricks of the
trade to help you reduce your costs and
still maintain good cover but, like you
say, the insurance companies won't often
volunteer that information. So, you know
whether it's investments or whether it's
pensions, people get advice, we would now
say to people, because health insurance
is so important but also so expensive
you know, talk to an experienced
advisor who just does health insurance
and that's what they
specialise in, because the savings are
well worth it. So, people can contact
bonkers.ie because obviously we have
a relationship with your yourselves
where we would do reviews
for your clients. They can contact
Total Health Cover
but we would say to all of your
customers, don't auto-renew and make sure
you get your cover checked because the
savings are too big to ignore!
- Okay, Dermot, thank you very much
for joining us!
So, we hope that interview helped
you answer some of the questions
you might have around switching
health insurance provider
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