ITU Medicaid Managed Care Addendum
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- Good afternoon and welcome to today's All Tribes call on the Medicaid managed...
- American reinvestment recovery act of 2009 next managed care entities...
- We we've made some suggestive comments or changes to that section and the...
- Care so we think that that that first sentence is very important um I think...
- Start have replaced provider I think we need a clarification on what a network...
- Your next question or comment comes from the line of Carolyn gal Tom red cape...
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good afternoon and welcome to today's
All Tribes call on the Medicaid managed
care itu addendum sponsored by the
tribal affairs division Center for
Medicaid and CHIP services dmca I am
lame to Allah ger with the position of
tribal affairs and joining me on today's
call is my colleague rachel ryan on
april 25 2016 6 p.m. s released a final
rule on managed care in medicaid in the
Children's Health Insurance Program chip
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this rule incorporated the Indian
protections in Section five thousand six
to the american recovery and
reinvestment act otherwise referred to
as ARA the indian specific provisions in
the final managed care role are located
in the section standards for contracts
involving indians being health care
providers and Indians managed care
entities in the final roll CMS committed
to developing sub regulatory guidance
through consultation on the use of the
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Medicaid and CHIP Indian managed care
itu addendum the ITU addendum is
intended to help facilitate contracts
between indian health providers and
managed care plans by identifying
specific several specific provisions
established in federal law that apply
when contracting with indian health care
providers for an oktoberfest 2016 and
CMS all tribes call CMS and chain tribal
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input and advise on an informational
bulletin that the Center for Medicare
and Medicaid Services is developing that
highlights the Indian specific
provisions of the final roll we
indicated on that call that we would
hold a separate call on the ITU addendum
CMS will then release the informational
bulletin and the ITU addendum as a
single on guidance together and after
bone is called the IT of the link to the
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ITU addendum will be sent out to
everyone who participated it's on our
spotlight
page at this time I would like to
provide an overview of the purpose of
the ITU addendum and walk through key
provisions purpose similar to the
standardized contract addendum use for
the qualified health providers in the
Medicare Part D program this addendum
has been developed for Medicaid managed
care entities to use when contracting
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with Indian healthcare providers through
the clearance process this addendum was
modified slightly from the model
addendum for QHPs to be streamlined and
consistent with the final manage
Medicaid managed care role this is jinda
ms not required that CMS received
several comments according the
development and issuance of a model
addendum for this purpose to assist
Medicaid managed care entities in
including Indian healthcare providers in
their networks we anticipate that the
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addendum will facilitate acceptance of
network contracts by ITU providers we
also anticipate that offering contracts
that include the addendum will provide
an image then managed care entities with
an efficient way to establish contract
relationship with ITU providers and
ensure that American Indian and Alaska
Natives can continue to be served by
their Indian healthcare provider of
choice Indian tribes are entitled to
special protections and provisions under
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the federal law which are listed in the
addendum the addendum also identifies
several specific provisions that have
been established in federal law that
apply when contracting with ITU
providers the use of this addendum
benefits both medical managed care
entities and the ITU providers by
lowering the perceived barriers
contracting assuring managed care
entities comply with key federal laws
that apply when contracting with ITU
providers and minimizing potentials
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disputes next I'm going to walk through
the key provisions in the addendum first
of all we have defined both indian
indian health care provider managed care
plan consistent with the regulatory
definition
in the final roll next we have the cost
sharing exemption for Indians no
reductions in payment in this section we
emphasize that American Indian Alaska
Natives are exempt from cost-sharing and
explain that managed care entities are
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prohibited from reducing payments to
Indian healthcare providers these
provisions were enacted with the
american reinvestment recovery act of
2009 the next section describes the
enrollee option to select an Indian
healthcare provider as a primary
healthcare provider we also emphasized
American Indian Alaska Natives right to
choose the indian health care provider
regardless of whether that provider is
in the managed care entities network
this provision was also enacted with the
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american reinvestment recovery act of
2009 next managed care entities
agreement to pay indian health care
providers this provision requires
managed care entities to pay indian
health care providers regardless of
whether the provider is in the managed
care entities network next contract
assurance that allows indian health care
providers to limit who is eligible for
items and services this section
identifies that an Indian health care
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provider can limit who it provides
services to under the Indian Health Care
Improvement Act the next section
explanation of applicable clickability
of federal laws to indian health care
providers this provision explains that
certain federal laws are applicable the
indian health care providers but not
others those laws are listed in Appendix
A to the addendum next section is the
explanation that Indian healthcare
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providers are non taxable entities this
section explains that managed care
entities may not collect or require
Indian healthcare providers to remit
taxes the next section is an explanation
that Indian healthcare providers are not
subject to insurance requirements
including professional liability
insurance this provision of the addendum
explains that Indian healthcare
providers
are subject to Federal Tort Claims Act
are exempt for insurance requirements
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the next section is explanation
concerning licensure accreditation
exemption for Indian healthcare
providers including professional staff
and the facility this section explains
that managed care entities may not
subject Indian healthcare providers to
state licensure and accreditation
requirements the next section talks
about view resolution and binding
arbitration this section identifies that
managed care entities may not subject
Indian healthcare providers to binding
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arbitration in the event of a dispute
between the managed care entity and the
Indian healthcare providers the next
section is a statement that federal law
governs Indian healthcare providers are
not subject to state law and medical
quality assurance requirements these
provisions explained that federal law
governs in the event of a conflict and
will prevail it also explains at section
8 05 the Indian Health Care Improvement
Act applies to medical quality assurance
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requirements the next section explains
the claims format the section requires
managed care entities to process claims
in accordance with section 206 H of the
Indian Health Care Improvement Act next
we talk about the payment of claims this
provision requires managed care entities
to pay the applicable payment rate
whichever is higher hours and days of
service this section of the intend m
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explains that the Indian healthcare
providers may set its own hours and
dates of operations next section is
purchased and referred care requirement
this section explains that the
requirements for purchase and referred
care prevail over the managed care
entities requirements when purchased and
referred here or used the next section
discusses sovereign immunity the section
advises that by contracting with the
managed care entity the indian health
care provider person
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waived sovereign immunity last section
discusses endorsement the final
provision of the indent advises against
using indian health care provider names
used to suggest official endorsements or
preferential treatment of a specific
managed care integy at this time I would
like to open up the call for any
questions and comments Joanne operator
could you ask there any questions or
comments no worries mrs. care really
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good ladies and gentlemen at this time I
would like to remind everyone in order
to ask a question or make a comment
please you spread fire to the number one
during a telephone keypad real pause for
just a moment to the plaza to any
western once again if you would like to
ask a question or make a comment please
press x 1 x 1 on your telephone keypad
your first question or comment comes
from the line of Miss Melanie for killin
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from Choctaw Nation your mind for pens
go ahead with your question or comment
thank you and thanks playing and Rachel
for holding us all and I just wanted to
fit on the record that we appreciate the
work that's gone into this draft
addendum and we did and we had a
discussion with you all last week during
P tags subcommittee and a strike free
version with them recommended changes
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with was presented and I plan say for
the record shop foundation sources that
that strike through and got off the
record but one of the items i wanted to
mention specifically was with regards to
spca coverage the section that refers to
that and in the current draft pick it
has a paragraph related to you indeed
health service paragraph related to FTCA
coverage for tribal organizations and I
just wanted to
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we we've made some suggestive comments
or changes to that section and the
reason that we have is because we want
to be clear that the coverage for ftp a
related to either IHS or tribes it
should be the same and and you should be
stated is equally strongly in the in the
tribal paragraph residue to the federal
paragraph so and it's line to put that
comment on the record and we've made it
suggested change for that we understand
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that the that one of the differences is
that we have a self determination or
self-governance agreement and to assume
those services from Indian Health
Services and how we get FCPA coverage
but we do believe the definitions of the
beginning of the addenda would cover the
definition of a tribal organization and
for purposes of that so thank you again
for hosting this call and thanks for
receiving my comments Thank You Melanie
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k Melanie this is Rachel um I received a
copy of the redline version but you have
not submitted your recommended comments
yet right we didn't miss that I'm not
specifically Choctaw Nation I've also
had to say that we please support the
red line okay do you know all right
thank you thank you yes once again I
would like to remind everyone in order
to ask if I should not make a comment
please spread far and then I'm foot born
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on your telephone keypad sorry no
further questions or comments from the
phone lines at this time I would not
like to have the conference back to
today's presenters please continue and
this is lame to villiger I was going to
wrap up since I don't hear any more
questions and we do appreciate the red
line and the support for the redline
version from Melanie thank you so as a
final reminder tribal affairs is seeking
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written comments on the ITU addendum and
those comments are due by
close of business November 16 2016
please submit written comments to the
tribal affairs at CMS HHS gov again
please submit written comments to tribal
affairs that's one word at CMS HHS gov
thank you again for your participation
rugged interruption mr. Williger yes yes
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ma'am we do have additional participants
who are going to make a comment or ask a
question I would like to kick them yes
thank you comment thank you so your next
question in our comment comes from the
line of Devon's el-ro from national
indian health you're my Nicole pencil
ahead with your question or comment
thank you hylian hi Rachel I just want
to echo Melanie's comments and really
thank CMS for taking the comments
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submitted by T tag and tries to heart
with creating this managed care addendum
I just want to recommend that you
continue to work with the T tagging
tribes in finalizing this hopefully at
the end of this comment period nihd will
be submitting some formal written
recommendations but at the end of the
comment period if you could also any
additions or edits you make to the
addendum you share those edits with P
tag with tribes before the product is
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actually finalized thank you thank you
devin
your next question or comment comes from
the line of Elliot millhollon from
called the cops ball your line is open
go ahead with a question or comment hi
Lane Rachel again to echo dedham and
Melanie's comments thank you to CMS for
working on this addendum and for issuing
separate regulatory guidance I think
this the the managed care addendum will
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be quite an important tool for the IHS
and tribes tribal organizations and
urban programs in contracting with and
entering into provider networks in
managed care settings I would like to
ask make make one comment and and ask 11
clarifying question if I could on the
managed care addendum there is a section
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entitled purchase referred care
requirement that then states I think
very positively that the provider may
make the provider which is really any
health care provider may make referrals
to other network providers and such
referral shall be deemed to meet any
coordination of care and referral
obligation for the managed care plan and
that's consistent with what CMS put out
and its new managed care regulation and
I think that will be that will go a long
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way to avoiding scenarios in which an
individual Indian Medicaid managed care
enrollee would have to seek primary care
for example at an indian health care
provider and then go see the same
primary care at a managed care for about
in network managed care provider simply
in order to be referred up for to a
specialist left that would create a
burden on the individual medicaid and
rly and also a burden on the Medicaid
system in an unnecessary duplication
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care so we think that that that first
sentence is very important um I think
it's a second the
the second two sentences of the second
or third sentence is there are really
designed to be kind of assist with
purchase preferred care issues and to
the extent system you know that's kind
of looking at this again the tribal
comments are graphed managed-care
addendum the best that was provided to
CMS entitled this section purchase
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referred care and I think that you know
on further reflection really it should
just be she just reference referral
requirements as a you know purchased
referred care programs or pair of last
resort and should not really be
implicated in referrals in managed care
setting so it may be neater to simply
remove those those those second or third
sentences for that paragraph and simply
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have the paragraph reiterates the the
deemed deemed to meet of provisions in
the first Center um that's my comment my
question and and you know I I think that
some tribes will be submitting written
comments and thank you very much for the
reminder to do so the information about
how they can do so one question I had
was there was in at least the draft that
tribes the some tribes had submitted to
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CMS that had included a provision which
would have laid out the requirement that
set out in the RF stimulus bill ah which
states that certain trust related income
from things like forestry or fisheries
or other types of crust related income
are not account for the purposes of
determining how much income somebody has
for Medicaid eligibility purposes so
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there was a provision that was included
there in there in the so the tribal
version that was initially submitted to
CMS and that was that was emitted from
the final draft it may have been omitted
cause of the sense that met the managed
care entities never have a role in
making eligibility determinations we
were not sure whether that was the case
or not and so I guess that's our
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question to CMS have you been able to to
confirm whether that's the case because
to the extent they are assisting in
enrollment they'll obviously be working
with the state but he says that they're
assisting and then you know in the
enrollment process that's an important
provision which really opens up Medicaid
to a large larger number of individuals
particularly in certain areas of the
country Thank You Elliot for that
question and you are actually correct
managed care entities don't play any
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role in the Medicaid eligibility process
and so that was the genesis behind
removing that particular provision
individuals that are enrolled in
Medicaid and CHIP that that is a state
function of single state agency function
and then after they're ruled and
Medicaid then they're either assigned or
AA 'king into the plans and so that was
the genesis of why that provision with
taken out that I really appreciate your
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questions like if I think will be will
be submitting for their comments in
writing as well thank you we're looking
forward to receiving us we have your
next question or comment coming from the
lying on Sarah Freeman from national
indian go ahead with your question or
comment to my eyes open all right Thank
You Lena and Rachel mrs. Araz and I just
wanted to add a kind of minor
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terminology additional comment I'm sure
we'll be including them in in our
written comments that are due to
sickness as well thanks for all the
information especially clarified a few
of our questions but with regards to
change in the terminology for an Indian
healthcare provider that you have listed
you know first in the purpose of the
addendum that really sit so I guess
just trying to figure out you know which
are the facilities obviously they
include I just entirely operate
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facilities but it just seems to not be
clear what a network Indian healthcare
provider Sabrina stick this reference to
terminology and we want to make sure
everyone on the same bored so this is my
name could you step back and repeat your
question on make sure I understand this
yeah sorry about that so just with us
it's not it's not much of a question for
a comment but with regard to the
terminology of the Indian healthcare
providers that have been replaced Indian
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start have replaced provider I think we
need a clarification on what a network
indian health care provider agreement is
so this is Rachel I can this might help
so when we were reviewing the identity
tag somebody actually pointed out that
we had some somewhere along in the Edit
process someone had done a word replace
for provided ihc-p so what happened is
that there were some places where it
should have just said network provider
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in reference to a provider that within
the managed care network and it got
replaced with network ihc-p provider so
we've tracked those states that down in
the addendum and has corrected that does
that fix your problem or am I not is
that not address it yes it does thank
you reach I wanted to make sure that
that was big after family oh there's a
really good catch and we all have gone a
couple places but it was very confusing
and we we do this is laying we really do
appreciate all your your willingness to
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respond to this quickly on the tea cakes
participation in this and that we're are
looking for a quick response but we
really are trying to get this guidance
out so what can have that the
informational bulletin in the ITU
addendum kind of come out as a pair and
you know now that we have a different
administration it's really incumbent
that we work to get these out as fast as
possible i think that there'll be one
more little round of clearance
internally
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so I just want to warn you about that so
we really appreciate your willingness to
to turn this around and fairly quickly
thank you your next question or a
comment comes from the line of angela
wilson from Cape River tribe your lines
have been go ahead with your question or
comment hi Lina and Rachel thanks
formals in the call as well and
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certainly agree with all the comments
what we're hearing on the phone from our
colleagues out in Indian country and so
we do appreciate the work of gchat as
well just a quick comment really one of
the significant barriers that we went
into here in California you know Pitt
River averages about 27,000 miles in
months and transporting our patient to
especially care outside of our managed
care entity that we primarily work with
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which is partnership and when that
happens in the cross over to the
boundaries of another managed care
entity part of the problems that we're
running into is a credentialing process
so when we all become all of us itu
become we enroll with the state medicaid
program we have to credential at that
time and i guess you know my comment
would be that that tribes should be able
to credential with the state medicaid
program and have that credentialing
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carry throughout all of all of the
medicaid process whether it's on the
managed care entity side or on the
fee-for-service wyd the reason that this
decision issue is when we're forced to
do separate credentialing for every
single of different managed care entity
that process causes nificant barriers in
third party reimbursement and attendant
enter and also um access to care in
certain cases when we're really trying
to work hard to educate the managed care
attitude about these referrals from the
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primary care provider so it is a
administrative burden on the eye to use
to have two separate separately
credential with
each managed care entity so that's just
a come on online by in this is lame i'd
like to respond to that because right
now i know you're in california it
always seems to be our pool of problem
areas we are actually looking into that
in that issue now and going over it with
our general counsel and getting
clarification so i think it's kind of a
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two-pronged problem it's not only is it
happening to you on the ground there and
we agree with you that it shouldn't but
we've got to get the clarification and
internally educate CMS internally and
also within our regional offices so
we've got a little bit of work cut out
for us but we are we've heard about that
issue and a lot of times we're also
hearing from different regions that
sometimes tribes are just agreeing to do
things just to get into the network and
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so we're trying to get kind of a feel
for how widespread this program it I
mean this issue is whether it's not just
in California or it's in other areas and
maybe when Kitty Marx gets back we might
have a discussion on maybe when we've
seen some guidance to the states to
remind them what that what the rules are
because we're hearing that a lot more
offshore assuring that some managed care
organizations in California are doing
like site visits and things to so we've
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learned alarming number of issues going
along with the credentialing and
licensing and i think that there's a
general confusion on what the
requirement is for fee for service and
whether or not the managed care entities
can apply an additional requirements on
top of paper service so we're on that
and i hope that we can get that resolved
in your region soon so more to come on
that but never stop bringing us all
right thanks wayne appreciate it
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your next question or comment comes from
the line of Carolyn gal Tom red cape
indian still ahead with your question or
comment your line is open good afternoon
yes mrs. carolyn gooje with the red
cliff and Blake superior oh gee boy in
Wisconsin and I work within the purchase
referred care department and our health
center is going through on some some
transitions and so when I look at this
the Medicaid and CHIP managed care
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entities with this addendum for
contracting I need to be able to find I
need to get a 101 on this first off our
health center I believe we have
contracts with the state and we do have
work with Medicaid Medicare so I'm not
quite sure if I'm able to unfollowing
you in as far as the purchase referred
care we do need referrals for those that
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are referred outside of the facility so
I'm trying to see on for my experience
is when we do applications up with
individuals for Medicaid the state will
automatically put those individuals in a
HMO or a managed care entity and it's
out to the people then to go exempt
themselves out of that managed care so
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is this am i following this is this is
this what's happening it is this where
what the focus of the group is I'm let
me just a copy of a couple of questions
in there let me address that in our
final rule and also um as part of our
guidance that we're hoping to really
release with this itu addendum we want
to kind of point out some options and
four states and tribes to work together
even CMS states and tribes to leave them
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together to figure out you know if
they're going to mandate um indian
individuals in
managed care then maybe there are some
things that they could do better we
talked a little bit in our rule about
algorithms and all and that's kind of
like a foreign object but we're thinking
like on the ground we've heard some
practices I heard some from the
telephone your world Indian Health Board
that maybe you could put all the Indian
healthcare programs into the plans and
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maybe the individual could be assigned
by zip code and maybe that would
eliminate the individuals wrong
assignment to the wrong provider and
there's been some other kind of strategy
so we'd be happy to work with you in
your particular date with your tribes
figure out a strategy that maybe we can
facilitate discussion and how they could
do that better because we do understand
that is a burden to be enrolled into a
managed care plan when you're already
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using an Indian healthcare provider is
your primary care provider so we do
understand that we like to have a
discussion offline with you and must
like to hear you know any kind of best
practices you can think of because we
when we're all provisions out we want to
like to be able to suggest to state
strategies for making it better I
appreciate that and yes I would like to
have further dialogue with you on how we
can do best practices I work best for
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the people that we serve I'm finna area
so um I guess I could female q um and
then try to start collaborating
coordinating some of these records so I
can understand so as I mentioned reverse
your transition SATA how Spencer and I
work with the trip to super camp I know
that but this something that was just a
fraction would you like me to provide my
email now please yes that would be great
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but i'm just going to spell it out of
this phonetic and la n e dot te r wi ll
I ger
at CMS hhs.gov all right let's thank
your lane you're welcome we really do
look forward to getting some strategies
for this because we've been hearing
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about it at all of the consultations
across the nation
there are no further questions or
comments from the whole night at this
time I would not like Karen to
conference back to today's presenters
please continue
thank you for everyone for taking time
to participate in this call we really
look forward to receiving your comments
and again thank you for your willingness
to submit them on such a short
turnaround track but we really are
trying to get this guidance out now
we're in a new administration you know
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fresh not even 21 hours old we want to
get as many things as possible we've
been working hard on with you out as
soon as possible so we look forward to
receiving them thank you