Difference Between Health Insurance and Cost Share Plans for Small Business Owners and Employees
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- You look at health insurance right now health insurance is great to have...
- Now of course then the network covers it too at least part of it which we're going to...
- So the monthly costs are far lower and if you never have to file a claim you...
- But this gives you a side-by-side comparison of our program again health...
- A million dollars that's what we talk about so...
- And urgent care and telemedicine right so uh pretty darn you go to urgent care...
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you look at health insurance right now
health insurance is great to have
in case you need it but it costs you so
much
and we usually don't need it that's the
reality it's great to have in case you
needed like a super
catastrophic reason not because you have
stitches i guess they have a broken bone
it's not the right reason to have health
insurance because it costs you so much
more money per month
and per year to cover those minor things
but if you have a
catastrophic things then it's better to
have health insurance
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if you need it but you hope you don't
need it but unfortunately costs
so much so much and most of us will
never
need it right not really need it until
maybe sometime in the future
well costs are continuing to go up every
month or every year they're going up 20
21 they've already said they're going to
be a lot higher
than this year some are projecting grew
up 10 to 20 percent
per month uh just just from 2020 to 2021
it's already almost doubled
the last 10 years so it's crazy or it's
more than doubled in some cases
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and the monthly premiums are going way
up deductibles that's the newest latest
thing
is let's keep the monthly price down but
let's put a real high deductible on it
in case you don't know
what a deductible it is that just means
the insurance doesn't cover anything
until you've paid the deductible
so if you have a 5 000 deductible and
you have a broken wrist and you go into
emergency for your broken wrist
x-ray setting emergency room fee
emergency doctor
you know extra mri whatever they do
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setting the cast
that may be a 1800 expense well you
didn't meet your five thousand dollar
deductible yet so you pay all eighteen
hundred bucks
wait a minute i have health insurance
yeah you have health insurance but you
have a five thousand dollar deductible
just like on cars some people have an
expensive deductible on their car
they get their car broken into someone
steals a stereo and a computer out of it
and you go file a claim and they say
well you got a two thousand dollar
deductible we don't cover the first two
thousand
what so high deductibles mean no
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coverage until you reach that deductible
right so it needs makes a lower cost
monthly cost but it also means
no coverage until you've met your
deductible so
that's the trade-off and a lot of people
out there have gone with high deductible
plans just have something
to get their monthly costs where they
can afford it because premiums are so
high monthly premiums are so high
and of course confusion's up you all
know this confusion's higher than it's
ever been
and uh over 30 million americans don't
have health care and now
30 million have just lost their job most
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of them that had health insurance
don't have health care from their
employer anymore if they don't have jobs
it's hard for the employer to give
someone
insurance when they don't even have the
job so
there's tens of millions of people out
there uninsured
and then tens of millions more who are
under insured that means they've got
super high deductibles so that they can
keep their monthly costs manageable
and we're gonna show you these things in
this but what if you had an alternative
which we do we have an alternative
called the freedom plan
and it's a from the sbi sba co-op what
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it does is dollar one coverage there's
no deductible at all
zero deductible so that broken risk
example you go in you start getting
coverage immediately
uh there's lower monthly costs in many
cases 20 to 30 to 40 percent lower per
month
so the monthly cost is lower there's no
exclusions for pre-existing conditions
unlike health insurance
it's a ppom network the largest in the
country all that means if you don't know
what ppo
and ppo network is preferred provider
organization
it just means that they've gone out and
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they've networked with a bunch of
doctors and hospitals and
urgent care facilities and such all over
the country and they've negotiated what
a broken risk costs
and what a concussion cost what an mri
is going to cost and so they've
discounted they said if you want to be
in our network which has got millions of
people in it
if you want to be in our network dr
jones then you have to be willing to do
a physical at this price you have to be
willing to do a mammogram at this price
you have to be willing to do stitches at
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this price and an x-ray at this price
so they've already discounted the
pricing okay so ppo network just means
they've discounted a much lower price so
if you go with a busted risk within cash
price
you may pay 2 400 to the emergency room
you go with ppo network even if you had
to cover all of it it may only be 1600
they say it's usually about 50 to 60
cheaper than cash price
so you're already paying less just
because you're part of a ppo network
all right so that's number one
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now of course then the network covers it
too
at least part of it which we're going to
go through with you so it's a great way
to save yourself
and save others money and get a lot of
people are underinsured
properly insured and get a lot of people
who are
properly covered i should say this is
not insurance it's a
co-op cost sharing plan um
and it's all great way to get paid too
so who is
sba freedom plan it was created by the
sba co-op
what they do is they aggregate small
business owners all over the country and
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combine them all into one
and have a cost sharing it's called
partially self-funded
health care coverage so that means all
these companies are paying in their
monthlies
and then they part of that goes into a
claim fund they pay all the coverage for
and my first question is that's great
but what if you have a lot of claims
that override how much you've all
contributed well there's something
called reinsurance that's purchased on
every person too so it's covered
so everything we commit to covering in
our plan is covered doesn't matter if
every employee in the company has a lot
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of claims they're all covered
because number one there's that's in the
claim fund but also there's reinsurance
put on this
so in case it goes above they're covered
so the employer doesn't have to worry
about
this it's regulated by erisa that's an
employee retirement organization it's a
federally
uh federal group i should say
very difficult regulation but what it
allows it allows
us to market this in every state so this
isn't a state by state compliance
because it's erisa compliant it can be
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marketed in any state in the united
states
okay it's also aca compliant if you
don't know what aca is you've probably
heard of obamacare
or the affordable care act which is aca
part of the aca compliance is they
required certain number of
uh wellness visits um well-being
visits like physicals and pap smears and
mammograms they required all those be
covered
on everybody's plan every plan had to
have that
to be called aca compliance you got to
be able to go and get a physical once a
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year
you got to be able to go and get lab
work once a year and you got to have a
stress test at a certain age so there's
different things that they wanted to
make sure were covered for certain
that you didn't have to pay for it was
covered
uh now i'll show you how the difference
between us and insurance when it comes
that we're aca compliant
so it's aca compliant erisa compliant
all
cost sharing is covered through the
claims
of the organization and if they exceed
that they're covered through reinsurance
and if they're under that it's
reimbursed to the employer
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so the employer can actually get money
back after a year
if they don't use up their whole claim
fund you don't get that with insurance
so that's another competitive advantage
you want to add to your mind
of talking to an employer is if the
claim fund doesn't get used it gets
reimbursed
whatever is not used gets reimbursed so
that's pretty cool
all right so a couple of things about
our plan number one there's a few plans
to choose from
all the plans have a individual or
family option
individual or family individual or
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family now each plan has cost sharing
built into it so it's dollar one
coverage
but what a zero deductible ppo contract
and savings what they do
is you have a 50 50 cost share
50 50 cost share up to a certain amount
and you've set that amount that's what
it covers
and then you could have a 20 cost share
up to a certain amount and you set that
amount
that's what it covers and then beyond
that we have 100 coverage
through the catastrophic stuff so we
have a 50 50 coverage
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up to a certain dollar amount which i'll
show you the plan in a minute
and then you could have all that means
what does 50 50 coverage mean
let's use that broken risk example again
you have a broken wrist you go into the
hospital
and they're going to do surgery they're
going to do x-ray set it emergency room
visit all that
it'd be 2200 cash price but because your
ppo
it's only 1600 so 1600 you show
them your sba card and they say thank
you we'll build your provider
they build the provider the provider
says hey we agreed this would be a 1600
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purchase we cover 50 david
the customer will cover the other 50 so
here's your 800
hospital so they take the 2200 cash
price
and they say hey it's ppo claim it's
only going to be 1600 and we're
responsible 50
of it so they pay 800 to the emergency
room the other 800
would be billed to you so no deductible
50 50 coverage up to a certain point
where if you go
with that same broken risk with your
health insurance
that you're paying a lot more monthly to
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have you're going for that broken wrist
it's 2200 cash but they've got a ppo as
well so they get it down to 1600 but
sorry
david you haven't reached your
deductible yet so you have to pay all
1600
we don't cover any of it so 50 50 some
people go 50 50 coverage
it's a lot better than zero percent
coverage with a deductible
right so 50 50 coverage
is the plan now think about this how
many how often do you actually going to
file a claim
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so the monthly costs are far lower and
if you never have to file a claim you
saved a bunch
if you have to file a claim and it's
under your deductible you save the bunch
because it's 50 50 coverage
you don't have a deductible with us with
them you have a deductible so you have
zero percent coverage
so you're paying more per month and you
don't get any coverage until you've
reached your deductible with us you're
paying less a month
and your 50 50 coverage starting dollar
one
so the low claims we price this out for
80
of the population does less than 7 500 a
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year in claims
80 percent does less than 7 500 year in
claims
so our basic plan is 50 50 coverage up
to 7 500
which is the the 80 have less than that
so that would cover 80 percent of
americans just with our basic plan
with our basic plan it's a lower monthly
cost of 50 50 coverage right up to that
okay so hopefully it answered your
question we'll take questions afterward
if you don't understand and as i said
it's all aca compliant
so it means you get all your
preventative care your routine checkups
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and all that are covered
100 there's not even a copay unlike with
insurance you pay a copay
you get primary care doctors are covered
of course urgent care visits covered
x-rays cts mris all that lab and
diagnostic services
everything that you're used to pharmacy
plan 24-hour telemedicine
inpatient psychology substance abuse
benefits
30 days a year are covered on that all
medical services eligible for ppo
network discounts so everything that you
get in a ppo discount
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they're all covered insurances a lot of
them exclude a lot of the stuff you just
saw or they charge extra for it
how would one use this plan i'm gonna go
through some comparisons in a minute
but how would one use the plan once
someone's activated an employee or
yourself
they receive immediately a digital card
that's eligible right now because
there's a physical package being mailed
to them with cards and manuals and all
that
but they immediately get a digital card
and access to a portal
all right they'll get a package sent to
their home they simply go in to one of
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the doctors in the network and show the
card
so if i want to go in for physical first
of all my primary care doctor happens to
be in the network which is great
uh they weren't in our original network
but we expanded and showed a bigger ppo
which my doctor's in
so that's great um and yours probably is
too it's a massive network if yours
isn't you can find another one in your
area
it's the largest network in north
america so you've got
the most hospitals the most doctor
coverage more than anyone else out there
in the ppo world
so you would simply make an appointment
you go in and show your card just like
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you do with insurance you show your card
if it's a wellness visit you pay nothing
because they're all free there's not
even a copay
but if it's a specialized that broken
wrist
example you show your card and they say
thank you they build the provider
okay they build a co-op administrator
the co-op administrator says okay
emergency room
that broken wrist is a 1600 agreed upon
already agreed upon price here's your
800 bucks
administrator pays their half and the
other 800 will be billed to you
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again with insurance they're going to
bill you all 1600
because you haven't met your co-pay yet
okay so medical provider bills you for
the difference you pay the difference in
your coverage
so how do we compare to health insurance
health insurance is great for the high
end
for the catastrophic stuff you know
where you got to be in the hospital for
six months or
five months and even they have limits
but
they got us beat above a half a million
dollars in claims a year that's where
they got a speed above a half a million
in claims per year
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above a half a million claims per year
they got a speed under that we knock
their teeth out
they can't hold a candle to us under
half familiar most people aren't needing
a half a million in coverage or more
right so knowing that where do they have
a speed above a half a million in claims
per person per year
who is that someone who gets a cancer
diagnosis
and needs to be in chemotherapy
radiation surgery all that in under a
year
and it may cost eight hundred thousand
we only cover up to half a million
some insurances only cover up to a half
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a million you gotta look at your policy
you may have a million dollar lifetime
benefit or million dollar annual benefit
we have 500 000
per year per uh
family member uh that's the maximum we
do now you got to pick that plan we've
got plans that have a lot less too
so where do they have a speed above a
half a million per person
okay if you're on that plan that's in
coverage
but to get a plan that does that they're
charging you out the yin yang
all right so they're charging a lot more
too so if you never need that
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you're you're not you're not better off
having that you know
uh because if you don't need it you're
paying a ton to have that benefit
that you may never need so but just so
you know that's where they're kicking
our butt
is above a half a million in claims
we're kicking their butt up to a half
million claims
which most families don't do even 8 000
in
claims okay so let's move forward
let's look at the two let's just just
you can see that kind of how health
insurance
versus us work and i'm not a superstar
expert in this our experts handle this
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but this gives you a side-by-side
comparison of our program again health
insurance are required and they're
mandated to give aca wellness visits
all you got to do is pay a co-pay i'm
looking at the left now insurance all
you got to do is pay co-pay 10
15 20 we give the exact same visits but
we have no co-pay
so if all you do is get your physical
each year and your pap smear and
mammogram
you don't pay anything extra with us
with your with your insurance you pay a
co-pay
ten dollars fifteen twenty oh it's only
twenty bucks well yeah
give me that twenty dollar bill i'll be
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happy to grab it
with us you don't even pay the twenty
dollar bill okay
and most people are going to use
everything you see here the green screen
aca wellness visits that's what most
people use
are the wellness visits that's why the
affordable care act required them
all right that's what most people need
isn't it nice to know that you get it
with us with no co-pay
and with them they got to pay with copay
sometimes there's no copay with that but
usually there's a copay
all right now with health insurance
again you have a deductible
some plans have zero deductible but most
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plans
have a small deductible and other plans
have a higher deductible okay
this is health insurance now according
to
um the kaiser family foundation
the and ehealth in 2018 and these have
gone up
the individual deductible on average in
america was 4 300
individual deductible that means before
you got any coverage
even though you're paying monthly to
have this great health insurance before
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you had any coverage the first 4 300
was not covered that was the average
deductible
i mean some people are paying a lot more
okay
the average family had an 8 300
deductible you got to
write this down in your memory bank the
most people you're talking to out there
about their health care they're paying
an 8300 they don't even have
coverage until they spend 8 300 you know
what's interesting that's less than the
average family claims
hmm
less than the average family claims is
what the deductible is
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that means they're not getting any
coverage for the average person who has
less than 8 000
claims all they get is their wellness
visits the green stuff there the broken
wrist they got to pay for it all
the twisted ankle x-ray got to pay for
the concussion got to pay for it johnny
gets stitches riding his mini bike
got to pay for it broken wrist
broken finger playing football you had a
little set you're in and out in two
hours well
it's 375 got to pay for it
no deductible yet again they kick our
butt above a half a million
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but let's keep let's keep comparing
with us it's 50 50 coverage
with them it's zero coverage until you
met your deductible remember insurance
zero coverage until you meet your
deductible us
it's 50 50 coverage dollar one
so you do have to pay half and they pay
half dollar one
and we have a one plan that goes up to 7
500 bucks now
insurance once you meet your deductible
then they cover it but they don't cover
it all
they cover usually 90 they call it a 90
10
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sometimes it's an 80 20 sometimes it's a
60 40 where they'll cover
60 you cover 40 or they'll cover 90 you
cover 10
usually it's not 100 covered but
sometimes they do cover 100
once you met your deductible depends on
which kind of plan you have
okay but many times you got to cover 10
still you don't you don't get it
scot-free
you usually have to cover 10 but you
might have a great plan where you do pay
zero so
but again only after your deductibles
back
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now we have other plans so we have one
plan it goes 50 50 up to 7 500 bucks
it's an inexpensive plan
and then we do a higher plan up to 20
000 where it's 50 50 up to 14 and then
then you only cover 20 after that so
we're getting into the woods here a
little bit
but just know that we have other plans
that even cover more okay
but here's the key most people have
under 7 500
in needs per year okay so most people if
you look at our basic plan on the right
there
we have up to 7 500 in our basic plan so
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80 percent of the people out there if
they got our individual basic plan
50 50 up to 7 500 bucks they're going to
be covered
they're going to pay a lot less per
month that's what i'm about to show you
if they need more well they wouldn't be
covered if they took our plan that only
covered up to 7 500.
if they had 60 000 in charges they'd
have to pay for it
above the 25 now they'd have the
discount of ppo price but they'd have to
pay for it
okay because they only took a 7 500
option but most people it's like having
auto insurance you have to have it by
law
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you usually don't ever need it right
hopefully you'll never need it but you
got to pay for it every month
hopefully you'll never need health
insurance above 7 500
but you may so you know that's up to you
to pick your plan
and we also have an ash catastrophic
plant that covers from 20 000
up to 500 000 with zero
covered by you 100 covered by them zero
covered by you a hundred percent covered
by them
zero convert value 100 covered by them
it's called the ash
catastrophic plan and we have several of
them but we go all the way up to a half
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a million
dollars that's what we talk about so
what do these cost okay
let's look at the individual plans first
we're looking individual
them versus us the average family is
paying six
or the average individuals paying six
hundred dollars a month with a forty
three hundred dollar deductible that's
nationwide six hundred a month forty
three hundred dollar deductible
what's our basic plan 285
now that is saving you 205
i'm sorry 305 dollars a month or 3 600
bucks a year
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by being on our basic plan with no
deductible
so if you had four thousand dollars
worth of charges you would have to pay
off four thousand plus
you paid the 7 200 a year for the
insurance so you'd be out 11 grand if
you had 4 000 in charges with us
you'd be up to 285 plus half of the 4
000
you know she'd be out about half that so
you can see
if you're the average person under 7 500
bucks and claims
we're going to kick their butt because
they don't cover anything until you get
to 4 300.
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okay we have another plan that'll cover
up to 20 grand
and it's only 365. so it's not 365 plus
285 it's 365.
so even in our plan that covers up to 20
000
with no deductible we're still
about 60 of the 40 off their the average
insurance price
and then look at this even if you go to
our catastrophic plan
with a half a million dollars in
coverage anything above 20 grand is 100
covered by them
anything above 20 grand is 100 covered
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by them anything above
20 grand 100 covered by our insurance
even if you get the most expensive plan
we have
it only be 620 a month you need to have
a half a million coverage versus the
average
is paying 600 a month with a thousand
dollar deductible
you can see why these insurance agents
who helped create this plan are so
excited
because they're saving a lot of people
money and they know most people fall
into that others
under 7 500 so even if you got our basic
plan at 285 you're going to have most of
your stuff covered
but you have to decide yourself that's
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individual let's look at family real
quick
the average family pays 1700 bucks a
month for health insurance and has an 8
352 deductible these are the averages as
of 2019
they're going up in 2020 1700 bucks a
month
plus an 8 000 deductible
that means they're paying 20 grand just
in premiums so they can have their
wellness visits covered
20 grand have their wellness business
cover now you got to have it in case you
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have a
a big need right but if you have a need
and your family have eight thousand
dollars and deducted before they start
covering anything
what's our plan cost for the basic up to
7 500
425 only not 17 14 up to twenty thousand
five
eighty and if you want our best plan
this is for a 52 year old it's cheaper
if you're younger
955 bucks per month
no deductible you have 50 50 covered the
max amount of pockets 14 grand in this
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example is what i'll say
14 000 and they'll cover up to half a
million where with the other side
you you can be out of pocket the 8 000
in deductible
plus 10 percent of whatever your
coverage is up to half a million that's
another 50 grand
so under half a million dollars we're
kicking their butt
above a half a million we don't have
coverage so you're better off with
insurance so if someone's high risk for
health and they're worried about
needing more than a half a million
coverage they shouldn't get on our plane
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but if it's an average family who's
otherwise healthy
we're kicking insurance's butt right so
obviously someone could go i had a
friend who was in a
trail bike motorcycle accident last week
and he's been you know he's got all
kinds of damaging
things he's got to go through and it
costs a lot of money it wasn't a half a
million
uh but things like that happen it could
have been a lot worse than that right it
could have been long term
you could have been hospitalized for
five months you know fortunately he
wasn't
so you know someone gets paralyzed or
something like that
obviously above the half a million is
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gonna it's gonna come into play
so but i don't think any insurance is
gonna cover that the right way that's
pretty much gonna end anyone's financial
ability to pay for it
but these are the these are the things
to be considered under half a million
per claim per per uh individual this is
per individual half a million two
we're kicking their buck in my opinion
we're kicking about you may you may feel
otherwise
look at the pricing there you're saving
a bunch of money so just on the
the family premiums alone you're at 20
grand a year plus you have an 8 300
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deductible we're a lot lower okay
so hopefully this shows you when we're a
better fit
for an individual like my son you know
he's he he goes in for a physical once a
year unless he has an accident playing
you know doing something in colorado
he's probably
never going to need anything real
significant
he could go pay the individual insurance
plan a 700 a month with a 5 000
deductible or get on a 285 plan with us
and no deductible and probably not need
it get all his physicals and all that
free
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and urgent care and telemedicine right
so uh pretty darn you go to urgent care
with your insurance it's not in your
deductible you're paying with us it's
only 25 bucks
25 bucks to go to urgent care with us
simply get them your website once they
go to your website they can learn more
they can click request a quote
when they click request a quote the
quote is as long as they thought how
many employees they have
how many family plans how many
individual plans whatever they put in
they're going to get a quote sent back
to them with all of our plans the basic
plan
the the plan b the second best plan and
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then the catastrophic plan so they're
gonna have all those presented to them
immediately through emails auto
generating welcome to the sba freedom
plans
created by the small business agency
cooperative for employers and employees
employers like yourself with small
businesses of two or more employees
have had a difficult time attracting and
retaining skilled employees
over the last decade amidst a growing
economy
employee benefits are now the driver of
marketplace movement
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for talented employees and the top
benefit request
is healthcare as an employer member
of the sba co-op an employer can
purchase their own
partially self-funded erisa employer
medical benefits plan
for its employees and their dependents
in all 50 states
it is well known that high premiums and
high deductibles and medical benefits
programs nationwide
create a struggle for employers to
establish
a comprehensive company healthcare plan
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that contains
affordable premiums while maintaining
low or zero deductibles
the small business agency cooperative
sponsors comprehensive
medical benefits plans regulated by
erisa
that includes the features and benefits
that you as an employer
or employee would expect statistics
indicate that productivity rises and
absenteeism is reduced
when employee stress is lessened if an
employer
offers wellness and comprehensive
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benefits employees can stay healthy and
working
while also providing for family health
care at home this
is at top of mind for employees in
addition to these listed benefits
these medical benefits plans include the
minimum essential coverage
under the affordable care act for
preventative and wellness care
the sba co-op freedom plans
comprehensive health care coverage
for your everyday needs include low
premiums
zero deductibles with first dollar
coverage low
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individual and family maximum out of
pocket on base plans
up to the annual coverage limit no
deductible
and co-insurance on buy-out plan
additions
additional buy-up maximums for
catastrophic plans
one hundred and fifty thousand two
hundred fifty thousand
and five hundred thousand no medical
underwriting
no pre-existing condition exclusions on
base plans
no waiting periods on base plans
national ppo network
dental and vision discount plan through
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network providers includes
lasik surgery there are no surprises
here
an erisa regulated group health care
plan is employment based
and provides coverage for all base plans
these plans include
primary care and specialist office
visits 24 7
365 physician access by 24-hour virtual
clinic
at no cost prescription drugs wellness
and preventative benefits included
inpatient outpatient hospitalization
emergency room and ambulance
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medical imaging and x-ray urgent care
facility
behavioral health care chiropractic
limited and in network
and durable medical equipment a unique
feature of a level funded
partially self-funded plan under erisa
is the return
of your unused claims allowing you to
reinvest these dollars
toward employees reducing the impact of
contributions
while effectively managing your health
care costs
employers can easily begin a medical
benefits plan
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and enroll any time of the year as an
option
employers may choose to retain an
existing carrier plan
placing the sba co-op health care plans
alongside
as an additional affordable employee
selection
if you would like to learn more about
the different benefit options
please complete the employer group
information form
by selecting get a quote we will furnish
a quote
plus benefit details for you and your
staff within 48 hours
thank you for your time we look forward
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to hearing from you
you